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actually having a piece of media "spoiled" is not a big deal CMV

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[–] Egon@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I remember this study, but I do question the solid conclusions, as there are a lot of caveats - these are about generic, short books, not long ones, not ones that take more than one sitting to finish, nor are they classics, nor movies, the study isn't double-blind, they cover only three very similar genres, the sample size seems tiny (4?) and given that, I wonder if the results are even statistically significant.

I also wonder if 'enjoyment of story' is the be-all and end-all metric when it comes to the value of a story, narratives are about invoking a whole range of emotions and mental journeys, not just enjoyment. Some of the best works I've experienced, I would struggle to rate as 'highly enjoyed', because I sobbed for half of it.

It's an interesting study, whatever the case.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's definitely flawed, but I think it's really interesting. I don't think there's any conclusive answer, but when the broad narrative is anti-spoiler, it's interesting to me to see the other side of it. It also helped me understand why I seemed to enjoy movies more when I knew what was coming. It took the stress of worrying for the characters away, so I could just enjoy the beats and scenes in their own.

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

Very fair. I absolutely also concede to enjoying some movies more when I know the plot, or even moreso when I know the film intimately well.

[–] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's right to make sweeping statements about humanity over some studies where a few hundred college students read a short story. Even in those studies, the difference in enjoyment between spoiled/not spoiled isn't much.

Like, it's really douchey to upset people and then point to a research paper as if that proves you know more about their feelings than them. Real reddit energy :smuglord:

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My intention wasn't to make sweeping statements about humanity or to shame people for not enjoying spoilers, and I'm struggling to see where you got that. The thread was having a discussion about spoilers, I remembered that article from a while ago and thought it would be a good addition.
Tbh it's strikes me as rude to accuse me of being some smuglord for joining a chat in good faith. Chill out please.

[–] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah fair, I didn't mean to come off that way. It's just that I've seen those studies used as justification for being rude and I'm seeing a lot of that attitude in this thread. Y'know the "ackshually I'm scientifically making your life better by spoiling everything" kind of people.

I want to clarify that I'm not saying you do that, but that people do do that. Sorry egon

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

Ah I see, I left that comment in the thread while there was very few comments overall, so I didn't think much of it. I can see how my comments could come off in the other way, if there's suddenly a bunch arguing in that other way elsewhere in the thread.
Thank you for the apology.