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[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (5 children)

If it's against someone's will, it's problematic. Making everyone into good worker drones may be desirable for the higher ups, but not for the individual.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 63 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I have never applied to a job because I wanted to work. I have never consented to live in a society where I must pay most of my money each month to someone who does absolutely no work. Suicide rates have never been higher in the US. I'm not saying this to do an epic own online, but to point out that we should stop being selective with these valid criticisms, because doing so creates a false dichotomy that only benefits our own exploiters here at home.

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 47 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Those who were imprisoned were in for being East Turkistan Separatists, a terrorist org that had been killing hundreds in various knife attack sprees and mowing random people down with cars in major East-Coast cities. Would it problematic to remove the poverty from their lives to remove the main source of radicalism and train them for careers so that they're now able to have a job instead of needing to join a fascist organization?

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago

"But did the individual consent to being deradicalized?" Is a great example of how myopically individualistic western society tends to be.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 11 months ago

Main problem about those job fairs and mandatory offers was that it never resulted in actual employment. Those "fairs" had 20 job posts ranging from Amazon work camp through shady mining job in some forsaken hole up to wiping asses of old fash in Germany, and those mandatory offers were also either scam jobs or telemarketing and the real purpose of it was to make you lose time and money and make you pissed off so you write off yourself from the office list so they can report lowering unemployment.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago

Contrast with other countries, where people are free to not work.

This is a thing in the US as well. Various benefits being tied to work that you have to apply for to retain the benefits and can’t deny offers for without risking losing those services.