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[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

an efficient way to get grenades rolled into the command tent.

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

While fragging is funny and cool as hell, let's not pretend that military administrators lack methods for compelling compliance among conscripts on the battlefield. One of the primary purposes of basic training is to instill military discipline by breaking people down psychologically and building them back up as conditioned loyalists.

I would not bank on soldiers breaking ranks, particularly when they're moved up to the front lines and caught between the rock and the hard place.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

One of the primary purposes of basic training is to instill military discipline by breaking people down psychologically and building them back up as conditioned loyalists.

Yeah but these guys aren't being conditioned, they're being given guns and sent straight into the meat grinder. I'd say they're better off shooting their CO and defecting to Russia (forever) but Ukraine also has snipers for just this occurrence.

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

And Russia has laid a lot of land mines, so its not a fun crossing

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would be looking for the first opportunity to run over to Russian lines and surrender

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's pretty hard to run through a kilometer of minefields and interlocked sectors of fire.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Allegedly there is a Russian radio frequency that Ukrainians can broadcast on to receive instructions on how to cross lines and surrender. Idk if it's true or not though, plenty of lies on both sides of this war.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

It does actually exist, but it is still a massive risk to cross no man's land.