I’m talking about the media classes and elite and rulers who use the terms. When they say “first world” they are not talking about a single country south of Texas

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

uh no? It's entirely the common people in the west too.

the average white westerner uses "North America" as a term that excludes Mexico, for god sake. Yes, whites are literally retconning the geographic term "North America" to constitute an ethnoracial zone which excludes Mexico, in the same way that they retconned the terms "Caucasian" "Indian" "continent" "Aryan" and many more, all of which had actual rigorous definitions but now literally just mean "white people"

any Latino who thinks they're "western" in any sense other than cardinal directions is beyond me, they've literally been doing this shit for 300 years kek

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

I agree with you. This user was being a pedant so I went with the most airtight argument and just accused western elites of being white supremacists instead of the majority of westerners as it’s easier to prove

[–] CatratchoPalestino@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

media classes and elite in what country and language? different countries and different languages have different media and different terms. also first world is different from western

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

If it isn’t in English, German or French then it’s not First World it’s just Sparkling Collective West

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

It doesn't matter, almost everyone in Europe speaks fluent American English, and in 20 years' time you can remove the "almost"

European American culture influences Europeans 100x more than vice versa. Most Americans can't name anything about modern European mindsets or politics. Most Europeans know everything about America's dirty laundry and social culture.