From good old r/EuropeanSocialists. What a shithole. https://www.reddit.com/r/EuropeanSocialists/comments/103cze7/imperialism/j2ymj23/
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i will say paying women in 3rd world countries to be surrogates is far too common and fucked up
Love it when queer rights checklists include commercial surrogacy as something we should uncritically want lmao
I just want to be able to joke about my breeding kink and how I want to breed my man wife, I dont want to have children, i've had a vasectomy
I told the doctor I was doing my part to destroy white supremacy
That's a thing?
There's also altruistic surrogacy without a financial incentive for the surrogate, and there's cis lesbian couples where one woman is the surrogate for the other. In my country, both of these options are illegal and that situation actually requires that queer people interested have the procedure done abroad. Framing the issue as "queer rights checklists include uncritically supporting commercial surrogacy", in a thread about a post making clear homophobic dog whistles about "gay people having to rely on others to produce babies", comes off as more than a little bit sus.
cuba stays winning, a family can get legally recognized as two gay fathers and two gay mothers
lowkey i feel like there should be a "dating" service for this so you dont need to go to a sperm bank and can have a bigger safety net for your kids
Thanks comrade, this is a welcome perspective. Not being queer myself, it's a topic I'm not well educated in.
Oh sorry about that. You're right, in the context of the post this is not really an appropriate place to entertain the topic. But let me be clear that I support altruistic surrogacy and think the redditor should be beaten to death with a stick. Well, figuratively at least.
The most fucked up version of this is where the surrogate mother (i.e. the mother) decides to keep her child in the end and the rich Westoids have a cry on the local news about how hard done they are.
Even non-exploitative gestational surrogacy weirds me out. Is it queer men trying to seem more "valid" in a heteronormative world that sees the idea of children as more genetic than sociological? If I marry the same sex when I'm older I'm adopting without question, fuck bougie white gays and their fashy bloodline obsession (cough
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Not having a blood connection with your kid does not make you any less their "real" parent. If you feel any different or think sharing their blood will strengthen your bond pls don't have kids because it's giving eugenics