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WE USED TO CALL THAT SHIT A VIRUS.

ITS EVERY. FUCKING. WEBSITE. NOW

"Hi I'm going to block this entire site until you give me your info, this is very cool and normal."

Capitalism ruined the internet. The whole thing is malware now.

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[–] voight@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They weren't that good at industrializing the country. Large part of it had been done by foreign engineers, large part of heavy machinery still in operation in 70s had been bought in 30s for gold, and some "taken" from Germany after 1945 as reparations.

Delusional and shifting the goalposts to boot. They weren't good at industrializing, they stole it, so it didn't count 🤣. What are you basing this off of, I wonder?

And, eh, what a certain machine will or will not change requires technical arguments. I'm not making statements requiring such, you do.

eh

You don't talk to people. Nobody talks like this.

I actually just gave you later examples of how computerized planning means jack shit in the face of external pressure, which is what the USSR was unable to withstand.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It can be all of that simultaneously and it is.

By the way, about German industrial equipment taken as reparations, that knowledge happens to be also part of my family history. My grandmother's brother (EDIT:uncle) was stationed in Germany post-war and busy in that very process. Not that any Russian would argue with that obvious truth anyway.

Also you are arguing in bad faith (everybody thinking a discussion can be perceived as a duel does).

You don’t talk to people. Nobody talks like this.

English is not my first language, Russian is. So solely by virtue of having grown here I already know a lot of things about USSR which you don't.

I actually just gave you later examples of how computerized planning means jack shit in the face of external pressure, which is what the USSR was unable to withstand.

If by external pressure you mean half the world buying its oil ...

[–] voight@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You shouldn't have learned Reddit English then. Yes you already mentioned you are a Russian speaker first I'm not trying to bash your grammar I'm just being a dick.

I don't care about your family history, I'm disputing your ridiculous historical claim that the USSR was bad at industrializing and stole it all from Nazi Germany, and that technology transfers are "cheating" at industrialization. Your family history doesn't even come up because again they industrialized a backwards tributary monarchy rapidly to the point the allies viewed them as a massive threat. You claim they were just handed industrialization when the rest of the world invaded them, & was barely diverted from pressuring them by WWII. Allied with the Nazis postwar to fight against them. Lmfao. I wonder why they had inflexible administration and high military spending.

Why would I be sending you cool books and movies and shit if this were a duel? I'm saying you're making an ideological case that doesn't line up with the actual history.

Trying to act aloof doesn't mean anything when you're spouting "dad history" straight out of the History Channel. What's next, Hitler's secret Microwave Weapon?

[–] voight@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Again I'm totally down to exchange sources & I'm happy to explain like Tooze's ideology and shit. Good book tho. Just disagree with him on a lot

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'll read it later, some 6 hours later or something, ok?

[–] voight@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

Sure and feel free to hit me with anything other than "dude trust me"

I'm not strawmanning you for any reason other than to force you to take a position lmao.

I view the internet as a way to get information. But reply to my emails at your leisure don't sweat it