"We need all your info for advertising, not you can't opt out unless you make an account and give us your email. Oops, looks like I hid the opt-out under a subheader. Amazon is now profiling you."

WE USED TO CALL THAT SHIT A VIRUS.

ITS EVERY. FUCKING. WEBSITE. NOW

"Hi I'm going to block this entire site until you give me your info, this is very cool and normal."

Capitalism ruined the internet. The whole thing is malware now.

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[–] voight@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Before we continue, you need to go read Wages of Destruction by Adam Tooze, a liberal historian who is still better than the dweebs you read.

I'm not talking to someone who thinks the USSR needed to steal industry from the Nazis.

The whole reason the USSR wiped the floor with them was their industrial production.

Where did they get the tanks from?

Did they buy all the tanks with gold lmao?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

than the dweebs you read

How would you know whom I read really.

I’m not talking to someone who thinks the USSR needed to steal industry from the Nazis.

It obviously did. Only it was usually called trophies and reparations.

Did they buy all the tanks with gold lmao?

They did buy the "means of production", the actual production lines to make those tanks, equipment of those, with gold.

Also engineers who would instruct Soviet engineers.

Mostly, there would be some industrial equipment really produced in USSR and really used, but Soviet heavy industries relied on pre-war American and German equipment till 80s or something. Well, no piece of equipment can last forever.

Why are you arguing about that really? What's so shameful in buying stuff? You think a mostly agrarian country can just build modern industries from scratch? Well it can't.

About WWII:

They would receive industrial equipment through lend-lease as well, and materials, even steel. Not just cars or canned food or rubber.

[–] voight@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

How would you know whom I read really.

I guess we'll never know if you don't post anything other than WIKIPEDIA 😇

[–] voight@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Being able to organize those technology transfers while developing a backwards tributary state is awesome I hope we can agree

It's the stalin sell grain buy factory build tank meme, I can't find it

[–] voight@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

Why are you arguing about that really? What's so shameful in buying stuff? You think a mostly agrarian country can just build modern industries from scratch? Well it can't.

No that's ridiculous I just don't understand why that means they "weren't that good at industrializing really" lmao