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[-] OutrageousHairdo@hexbear.net 61 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They could literally set up gun turrets on the Rio Grande and Abbott would still talk about how Biden is "weak on the border" and bang the secessionist drum because he refuses to approve a first strike against Mexico City. It doesn't matter what compromise the-democrat makes, because the-republican will always just ask for more. It costs them nothing and their voters don't fucking care. Anyone who says otherwise is a dumb fuck who doesn't understand the first thing about politics.

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 30 points 9 months ago

Obviously Biden wants to do this, but he’s signing on this specifically because in exchange he’s getting all the money he wants for Ukraine and Israel.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"Oh no I had to do a bad thing that I want to do but people will be mad at me so I can do another bad thing that I want to do that most people will be mad at me."

Masterful democratic negotiating

[-] RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

huh? if the GOP rejects the deal, Biden gets a feather in his cap, if the GOP rejects the deal, they look extreme and silly to the small sliver of marginal, contestable voters.

obviously there's nothing Biden can do to win MAGA chuds; they'll pick the real fascism every time. but he doesn't need to -- he only needs to cement the 3pct or whatever of normal suburban whites who used to be moderate Republicans (the same constituents that he took in 2020). and those people probably don't like the "vibe" of American being overrun by foreigners, and also probably think that seceding from the Union is unserious and dangerous.

also, I'd think: the material interests just won't produce a progressive, humane policy; the people that would most materially benefit are the prospective immigrants who are definitionally non-voters. the Atlantic readers with No Human is Illegal yard signs aren't abandoning Biden for this; the Left, such that is, has already been brought to heel (and those who plan to withhold votes or support are already jumping ship over Biden's genocide; in for a penny, in for a pound, the Dem advisors must think).

[-] OutrageousHairdo@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago

I mean look at the situation so far. Even before this, Biden has been tighter than Trump. Have the GOP acknowledged that? No! Biden is a democrat, democrats are loose on border security, QED Biden is loose on border security, even if the facts say otherwise. Republicans will repeat this to anyone who listens, and they will continue to do so indefinitely.

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