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[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

While the GOP is definitely become fascist, the US and the democrats is a neoliberal plutocracy, it's different from fascism (= a belief in inequality based on an mythological and essentialized identity). Say what you want about capitalism but they don't give a shit about your identity as long as they can sell you things or exploit you. Fascists don't like capitalism because it's too egalitarian - they want inequality and classes based on identity not money.

If you're an accelerationist you should also consider what the better tactical choice is to bring about a socialist revolution. Fascism is very stable and difficult to overthrow without the support of the military, and the technology to surveil and control people is much more advanced than in e.g. Nazi Germany. And you didn't have much of a resistance there either.

their supreme court is not different from Iran

I love the comparison to Iran's guardian council. To be fair their model of democracy / theocracy is build around resisting regime change / coup attempts from imperialist influences.

[-] hamid@startrek.website 48 points 7 months ago

Fascists don’t like capitalism because it’s too egalitarian

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[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I suggest you read a book on fascism like this one (excerpts)

[-] sammer510@hexbear.net 40 points 7 months ago

I suggest you literally read anything. You haven't even read easy stuff like Blackshirts and Reds if you really believe that fascists don't like capitalism.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The entire point of fascism is class collaboration/subordination for the benefit of the capital owners, to suppress labor and stabilize falling profit rates

It's precisely the reason Hitler was backed to the hilt by German industrialists

Brain-dead liberals have always confused certain protectionist measures used by fascist regimes as "anti-capitalist" because many of them have been completely blinkered by the exploded neoclassical conception of capital accumulation, while they ignore the unprecedented privatization campaigns of every fascist regime

Liberals are forced to believe in a fantasy version of capitalism and then stare in disbelief when the fascists turn out to be more efficient capitalists than they ever were

[-] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago

Fascism is capitalism in decay. Your definition is silly and incomplete.

[-] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

fascism

egalitarian

Fascism is an ideology that is practically defined by a constant search for an Other, an outgroup, an underclass it can use as scapegoat. It is literally in a perpetual state of eating its own tail

Genuinely one of the most baffling things I've seen a Lemmyite post here

[-] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago

Fascists absolutely want classes based on money. Fascism was devised as the union of labor and capital. Mussolini and the Syndicalists wanted to use national identity to "resolve" class contradictions, not make classes into national identities.

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

Even allowing the distinction, the Democrats fuel fascism by funding far right Republican candidates and fear-mongering over immigrants, China, etc. Capitalists will typically side with fascism to defeat socialism because it allows (most of) them to maintain their status. And fear-mongering about foreigners gives them a scapegoat and distracts from domestic problems, while justifying the corrupt military-industrial complex which allows transferring public funds into private hands. The Democrats are 100% fascist enablers.

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 months ago

fascism = a belief in inequality based on an mythological and essentialized identity

Wrong.

Fascism is open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic and most imperialist elements of finance capital.

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