Alright, so we pump energy into a chaotic system and obviously the extremes will get more exteme. Stronger hurricanse, colder hurricanse and snap freezes, deeper floods, wet bulb events further north than you think possible, whatever. This is the known unknown.

I am existentially afraid of the unknown unknowns. At what point do the phytoplankton I'm currently breathing the poop of have a mass extinction event? All of human civilization is about to drown on dry land and I spend 5 days a week maintaining software that charges people for turning on their lights.

I crave death I crave oblivion death to america death to capitalism death to me.

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[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The systems that govern out societies are far more fragile than the ecological systems. Global trade will break down well before the phytoplankton will die off. War, chaos and, (hopefully) revolution will come before human extinction.

In that period of chaos, there is hope that new just societies will emerge, which can navigate and control the changing climate. It is our job now to lay what groundwork we can for them to emerge.

Yes this is apocalyptic but its not doomer.

[–] BigHaas@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Global trade will break down well before the phytoplankton will die off.

You have no evidence for this and no reason to believe this.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My man, we're not going to continue shipping oil across the ocean when there's no phytoplankton. We're not going to be able to do much by that point.

Those "other things" are going to break the trade systems sooner than later. You already the trade routes slow down to covid. You're seeing it again with Ansarallah in the Red Sea. More things like that are coming.

[–] BigHaas@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I feel like you are agreeing with me that society is fucked and we are fucked. Are you not?

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Apocalyptic but not doomer

Its gonna suck but we can survive this. Its like being a prepper but you prep by being a part of a community instead of hording guns and spam alone in a bunker. The bigger and more mobilized the community is the better off you are.

Practical anarchism will become very relevant. Mutual aid, affinity networks, etc. You don't have to be an anarchist to do them. It's just gonna be good praxis as capitalist society breaks down.

Just find like minded people IRL. Its the solution to all doomerism.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

Practical anarchism will become very relevant.

been saying this since the old subreddit.