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There's an entire intellectual tradition about this called Marxism-Leninism. There are successful Marxist-Leninist governments that exist right now, including the largest nation on earth. We aren't aren't talking about a fantasy here, there is is over a hundred years of paractice and two hundred of theory, if you're interested in our worldview
Liberal democracy does not work for us - as in the people who are not in the ruling class. That isn't because of some immutable characteristic of all governments, it is by the design of the US government and all liberal democracies.
They were designed by and to work to the benefit of the ruling class - capitalists. That's why it doesn't work for us. Thats the key element and that's what we advocate for a change of. The only way to change things in through class struggle - and placing power in the hands of our class.
We have anarchists here and we keep the place non-sectarian. MLs would agree but not for the same reasons as you. Our disagreement is that we need the power of a state to safeguard the gains of a revolution against the global capitalist class and their state forces. Anarchists have a different view, but they understand the importance of revolutionary class struggle and disagreements aside, their theory of change is infinitely more grounded in reality than yours
China is the most obvious one, but Cuba, DPRK, Vietnam, the USSR did very well until it lost its conflict with the US.
You're probably going to say some dumb shit like China isnt really communist, which shows you don't know what you're talking about, or maybe some other westoid propaganda talking point about muh authoritarianism. If that's what you've got don't bother.
You probably don't consider these countries "successful" for some reason based on US propaganda. Great, we've all heard it and know its bullshit.
If you want to pretend that China is not currently the most successful nation on earth, the world's largest democracy, and led by a Marxist Leninist party, cool. Most of the west likes to pretend that shit to. It doesn't change reality, and no one here wants to hear about your lib fantasy world
Socialism is democratic dumbass. Its not liberal democracy - its people's democracy.
Because you libs all say the same dumb shit
go back to reddit with that lame shit>
Lmao you're a living meme
right?! They're the most average, predictable lib, yet they think they're speaking earth shattering revelations here lol
Bet they've never heard this before, heh
Tianemen... Square??? Is that something from geometry, like a rhombus? Never heard of it.
Crony capitalism is the problem? Well yeah when you put it like that its like real capitalism hasn't even been tried! You're a genius.
Never would have heard these unique perspectives living in the US
So brave :liberalism:
This is a classic example of "no investigation, no right to speak." You don't know what you're talking about
In this moment I am euphoric
Took the words right out of my mouth!
HE SAID THE LINE!
Please, stop lying about a country that you don't know.