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It's just scientific fact that they love being slaves to corporations unlike us, the proudly independent and individualistic Westerners smuglord

Source: I was on a Discord with a Japanese dude

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

What? This is the stupidest shit ever lol. How is this racist? If referring to someone as “an American” or “a Kenyan” or “a French” is not racist, why would saying “a Japanese” be any different? Japanese is literally the noun and adjective depending on how you want to use it just like any other demonym

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It’s not inherently rascist, I should have took more care in my phrasing.

What I meant was: people who who drop the person or personhood identifier in favor of national/racial/other sorts of identifiers are often those who engage in broad strokes judgements based on origin.

A key part of English, at least based on my understanding of it, is the clear delineation between person and non-person. Removing that reference to personhood by simply using an adjective of origin is closer to calling them an “it” than otherwise.

That’s just my read on the topic though, I’m welcome to hearing otherwise because this could be an interesting convo.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

it also just depends on the word for some reason, english is very vibes based and inconsistent in its rules and connotations.

A Greek

sounds decently normal

A Kenyan

seems fine

An Egyptian

commonly said

A Chinese

This sounds weird and bad. Couldn't tell you why but it just sounds racist compared to the other ones.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think any -ese demonym can't be turned into a noun without sounding off.

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

That feels like the correct take

[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, turns out the lingual patterns my grampa used to refer to Chinese and Japanese people is not great, in 2024.

edit: To be clear, he used different slurs, he wasn't so racist as to use the same slur for Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Laoceans, and island people.

[–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 8 months ago

Seconded. "My black friend" is what racists say instead of "my friend"