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As a nine year old I thought the Death Eaters were meant to be like the Nazis, but I guess Rowling is so dumb she didn't make the connection until after she wrote them?

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[–] booty@hexbear.net 36 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Well, just to try and be a bit fair (Rowling and HP both suck a lot, we can dunk on them entirely fairly) the sorting is explicitly quite arbitrary. Harry was told by the sorting hat that he'd be well suited to the nazi bad guy house, but he said he didn't like that idea so it stuck him in the good guy main character house instead. And it's not really life-defining as far as I remember, once you're out of school you can identify with it or ignore it as much as you want, it doesn't really follow you in any way on its own

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 50 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Ironically Harry is so inert and cares so little about anything besides sports and defending the status quo that the hat was probably right in saying he'd make a good fascist. His only thoughts about endemic slavery are "I wish my nerd friend would stop being so annoying about all the slaves" and in book 2 he is preoccupied, not with the possibility that his ability to talk to snakes is an indicator that he's made bad decisions/might be doing something wrong, but that people are being rude to him because he appears to be a fascist.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it's like the political version of easily figuring out the author's thinly veiled fetish.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago

shoutout to mr tarantino

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

so gryffindor is actually the lib house 🤯

[–] fox@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

Hufflepuff is the people's house

[–] Leon_Frotsky@hexbear.net 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

doesn't really follow you in any way on its own

Except that all the members in the Hitler youth house ended up joining the wizard SS

[–] Chump@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

No shame in the nazi game apparently

[–] Sons_of_Ferrix@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's still weird that there's a house where pretty much everyone who joins it turns evil, yet the school doesn't ban them? Seriously, Snape is the only Slytherin who is arguably good but even he only did the right thing for incel reasons.

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah the one founded by an open wizard supremacist who created a snake monster to kill children he considered to be impure. The one named after him hundreds of years after his death.

[–] Afterthought_C@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Snape feels like this stand-in for authority Rowling does not like/ does not want the reader to like, or a cheap plot device to trick readers into accepting Harry's lack of development. Two things that come to mind:
Philospher's Stone: After Harry stopped Voldemort from getting the stone he is asking Dumbledore in the infirmary what happened after losing consciousness. Harry asks about the red herrings and Snape's demeanor that suggest Snape was the true culprit. Instead of something reasonable like "Snape protected you because he is a teacher, it's his job and there's a huge difference between being nasty to discourage bad behaviour and wanting to harm you" Dumbledore says that Snape resents Harry's father and that he helped Harry because he owes something to his father or something like that. Harry thus walks away without having to reexamine his own behaviour.
Prisoner of Azkaban: When Harry sneaked out when he was not allowed to Snape catches Harry and starts interrogating him. The scene felt like we were supposed to see Snape as obstructive and not Harry as being irresponsible for sneaking out to places where he should not be when there is a (alleged) killer that wants him dead on the lose.
Note that these were all in the first few books, way before the incel stuff got introduced.