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lol Trump the "anti-imperialist."

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[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Pluto is constantly in an unending crusade against all of the imaginary 'pat socs' on this site who love Trump and Russia. Probably thinks he's owning them with this 'revelation'.

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know of any here, but there is a bit of a myth of trump being a little bit less war-monger-y than Biden. Actual patsocs are certainly out there. Rainer Shea, Midwestern Marx, Jackson Hinkle, etc are way too prominent.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's multiple layers here. I'll try to be neutral to explain the confusion. If I misrepresent anyone please call me out.

The kind of person you're talking about just gets banned here, no question. As soon as you say anything even slightly right-deviationist you're gone.

There also are, more or less, 3 camps in Hexbear with varying views on Trump, Russia, etc. The first camp, which zed_proclaimer argues for, sustains that Trump is no worse than Biden, or at least is not measurably so, and Russia is actively engaging in anti-imperialist struggle. The second camp, which encompasses most of the site, tends to think Trump is worse than Biden, but definitely not by a large enough difference to participate in electoralism. The second camp usually will consider Russia to be a net positive as a result of their geopolitical position, but unlike the first camp, the second camp usually will consider Russia to be rather reactionary and regressive (not necessarily in a historical materialist sense). Then the third camp, which is by far the smallest and tends to get banned for liberalism, tends to consider Trump to be much, much worse than Biden and might approve of electoralism as harm reduction. They often also have negative views of Russia, Iran, etc. No one fits neatly into any of these, but those are the general tendencies you'll observe here.

Full disclosure, I'm personally much closer to the first camp, and I think most of the people who hang out in the news mega tend to be as well.

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

I know all that, good to keep opportunists out.