Don't know, don't care. Oswald is plausible but so are a dozen other scenarios. A lot of the "magic bullet" bs is very confident people who don't know how wacky ballistics can be. Eyewitness testimony is worse than useless due to the way memory works. Every removedin the world was in Houston because it's a major city, an oil city enmeshed in US imperialism, because the president was there, and because the US is full of crooks and spies.

It's all silly bullshit. Who cares who turned Kennedy in to a meme? What matters is what happened as a result; The repercussions on civil rights, the Vietnam war, all those shitty Time magazine articles on The Kennedys. Who pulled the trigger is a historical curiosity, a fun factoid for trivia night. It ultimately isn't important. Who pulled the trigger on the gun that killed Dr. King? Doesn't matter, the feds did it whether they were the ones that pulled the trigger or not. They stood to benefit, they exploited the situation to the fullest. Doesn't matter if the gunman was FBI or some random white supremacist, if it was a planned op or stochastic violence. Dr. King was removed. Who shot the Romanovs? We know exactly who, when, where, and why. And it doesn't matter because there were still rumors and BS about surviving Romanovs for decades afterwards, even though everyone knows exactly what happened. Who pulled the trigger on Darren Seals? Doesn't matter, the cops killed him whether they pulled the trigger or just set up the material circumstances in which is death became useful to the state. What would we change if we figured out which pig did it? Nothing. Ferguson wouldn't change, America wouldn't change. We know who the killers are. The people pulling the trigger are just foot soldiers in the class war. The ruling class, the capitalists, are the ones driving all of this. There's not going to be some great revelatory moment where it's revealed that Allen Dulles personally fired the brain-explodey gun to take out Kennedy and everything changes. That's not how the machine works.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

I think conspiracies are a great way to radicalize certain types of people away from liberalism and electoralism, but at a certain point, it's just arguing over minutia by people who have no real means of ascertaining whether that minutia is true or not. "Was Malcolm X assassinated by the NOI or by the FBI?" is a simple question if we rephrase it as "Did the FBI engineer Malcolm X's assassination?" or "Was the FBI planning to remove Malcolm X from the picture" (the answer to both is yes), but it becomes a matter of minutia if we start asking whether the people who shot him were FBI agents distinguished as NOI members or FBI informants recruited from the FBI. Was Louis Farrakhan a federal asset or were members of his closest circle who persuaded him to order the hit federal assets? Did Farrakhan explicitly order the hit or was it more of a "will no one rid me of this troublesome priest" type of deal? All minutia, and outside of getting unredacted FBI records, there's no real way for an investigative journalist to conclusively figure out.

The glaring hole for 9/11 Truth is motive. The US doesn't need to establish casus belli, especially during the 90s-00s when the US was the sole hegemon. Where was the casus belli when the US invaded Grenada or Panama during the 90s? Maurice Bishop was authoritarian^TM^? Noriega was a drug lord? Just look at how the US shamelessly lie and cover for the Zionist entity right now. And this is with social media that the US doesn't completely control (Tiktok). Travel back to 2001 where social media didn't exist outside of rando forums and cable news was starting to become a thing. The US had complete control over media. They could easily just tap in to the average American's Islamophobia, and the closest thing they have to opposition would be Parenti writing articles in magazines and publishing books nobody reads.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think this is the attitude we should look at with all conspiracies. The actual "nuts and bolts" the minutia, is something people spend years of their life overanalysing and memorising, but when you ask them what the consequences were, and how the US government used this event to further their own interests, you get blank stares or generic boilerplate conspiracy ranting about "them."