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This is no honeymoon, the American "left" will never recover from the Harris/Walz combo; every major base of support (demographic/economic) is covered; Black woman with a jovial heartlandish white man standing behind her is the universal password for the legendary "competent American fascism" software update leftists have been prophesying.

They got this shit locked for at least eight years, Walz is suburbanite catnip and Harris has the identity libs eating out her hands, along with big tech, wallstreet, and the zionist lobby who are now methodically eliminating the last holdouts of the post-2016 nascent left movement

There is no credible avenue of leverage here, the libs can effectively respond to any leftist utterance with accusations of racism, misogyny, and purity testing and it will stick. Already we have most liberals being one rhetorical step away from defending Walz unleashing the National Guard on BLM protesters

There is no point in engaging with domestic national politics at this current time, the ball is firmly overseas

The only series of events that can undermine this new DNC paradigm is Israel blowing up the world and the US mobilizing to save it. Not even the collapse of Ukraine can dent it now, since that was "Biden's project"

Hate to say it, but the DNC won a firm generational victory

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[โ€“] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think the way in which they defeated Bernie in 2020 when he had a serious(likely) chance of winning is what I'd say is the generational "victory" for them.

Bernie sucks and all but people including the DNC apparently realy believed he was a far bigger threat and he wasn't going to bend the knee. Of course the irony in that is obvious, the jokes write themselves etc. Despite all his sucking he was campaigning on far better platform than the alternative, it was no 99 vs 100% Hitler contest like these days.

IMO you shouldn't have any hopes to begin with. Embrace doomerism, the end of the American empire will come through the headlines of 2.0 C of global warming. We all lost a long time ago anyway.

[โ€“] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

IMO you shouldn't have any hopes to begin with. Embrace doomerism

Trust me, electoralism has never held any truck with me, even when I was a default lib I was the "voting doesn't matter" guy, I'm modulating my tone and beliefs for the benefit of any liberal lurkers here who are liable to fall for this circus

I'm a firm believer in the Hasan Piker school of talking to libs; sometimes you got to get down to their level and analyize shit how they would see it, otherwise if I leaned into my true beliefs they'd either find it incomprehensible or threatening to their sensitivities