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I'm not one to post often. I'm not really one to rant to strangers online often, even. But, after migrating from r*ddit to lemmy, I've had this on my mind and this seemed like the place to vent.

I see discourse about tankies constantly on Lemmy. This struck me as odd. Why are these so called tankies such a threat? Why do I see people calling themselves left-wing and attacking tankies more voraciously than neoliberals and, sometimes, even fascists?

I think I know the answer, just as well as most people who will read this. These are the Zizeks of the world: people who do indeed think in a left-wing oriented way, but fail to recognise that they're also Western to the core and the biases that come with that.

I sincerely care about this much less than the actual reason I'm making this post. That is: why don't these people notice that their talking points, left-oriented as they may seem, always end up supporting US allies or attacking US enemies? I mean, do these people not see that Ukraine winning the war is a boon to the US, regardless of who is "right" in that conflict? Many other such cases, but I think I've made my point, or, rather, my confusion, clear.

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[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

People who leave behind terrible world views often don't leave behind the thinking.

I think the anti-tankie crowd sees tankies as being this. They see chuds saying shit like "Hitler did nothing wrong" and denying the holocaust, then see MLs (a good portion of whom in the west are former chuds) denying the alleged communist crimes like the "Holodomor" and Uyghur genocide, and defending infamous communist leaders like Stalin and Mao (whom the libs see as being at least as bad Hitler, if not moreso), and they understandably come to the conclusion that tankies are red fash and not to be trusted.