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[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 91 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Luddites were good actually

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, but they teach us he was bad without explaining why he did what he did aside from a vague "He hated machines"

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I was led to believe the luddites were like the Amish and they had like, a religious opposition to technology.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

Working as intended. capitalist-laugh

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it was a targetted movement where they believed the technological advances were replacing good jobs with little benefit to the community. I don't know the details but I believe they accepted new technologies when it was displacing dangerous labour. I imagine it's not dissimilar to discussions we're having right now about more or less the same issues!

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[–] 4am@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Apparently they just didn’t want their labor replaced with machines so they’d be out of the job, but the propaganda (“tHeY jUsT oPpOsE pRoGrEsS”) is the story that survived within the imperial core.

So there is actually a strong analogue here with actors and writers not wanting to be replaced with LLM chatbot or image-generative AIs. Adam actually is a Luddite, in a sense, and it seems weird to me that some cringelib is clamoring for something that will replace them as well, they just don’t know it yet.

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

spray-bottle luddites are reactionary according to marx

but what is happening here with the unions is seizing AI tech for the benefit of workers, not the corporations. the contract explicitly allows writers to use it as they wish, but cannot be pressured by corporations to use it to meet quotas. it is explicitly not luddite, and is in fact what marx suggests to do with emerging technologies. i fully expect writers to use ai to make their jobs easier going forward and to have something to bounce ideas on without having their jobs endangered.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

YOU DID NOT HAVE A REAL JOB ANYWAY! THE BAZINGA TECH IS LIBERATING NO MATTER WHO OWNS AND COMMANDS IT AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT YOU'RE A LUUUUUUUUUHDIIIIIIITE maybe-later-honey

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ukrainian flag?

Ukrainian flag

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also eu-cool

Imagine my surprise lol

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[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Universal symbol for "you're about to hear a shit take."

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's a bunch of people like that on Reddit who are convinced AI is taking over every industry and people trying to push back against AI techbros taking advantage are luddites afraid of change. Pretty sure those office workers will be the first to lose their jobs.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are luddites in the sense that the Luddites were cool as fuck

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I kept using the term luddite for so long until I read about the actual luddites; it's crazy how relatable they are and yet they've been smeared so thoroughly.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

See also: capitalists' definition of "anarchist"

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hexbear had a feverish outbreak of the same takes for a little while when LLMs got successfully marketed as "AI" and it seemed like magic godlike holographic waifus were just around the corner.

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That was kinda fun. I know just enough computer science to ask the questions that really annoy "AI" ~~accolades~~.

[–] Im14abeer@midwest.social 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago
[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

:hasan-smash: damn it

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[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)
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[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago

Critical support for Adam's stupid fucking face, I guess.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago (9 children)

How's that post go again

If I have to get exposed to the political opinions of a 14 year old again, I'm going to scream?

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I remember when we first set up shop here and I realized there were actual teenagers amogus. I threw up in my mouth a little with the idea of talking to someone half my age without realizing it.

Good news is it's 3 years later and they've all likely grown into full people at this point.

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[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That is a literal child. Like, it says 16 in their bio.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 76 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Children should not be allowed to use the internet.

[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Synthesis: Children should be able to use a little bit of internet, as a treat.

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[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you're old enough to drive a tractor and ride a moped on public roads, you're old enough to get mildly dunked on by an obscure internet forum you'll never even hear of.

Sorry, I don't make the rules.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

If you publish a public take on unions, you should be praised or bullied as an adult

[–] grey_wolf_whenever@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the blue checks are all so mad because they would die to simply be hooked up to an AI powered slop hose that gives them a batman movie every day no matter its quality

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

EDIT: Sorry I meant Batgirl.

But does it give you the cancelled Catwoman?

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

literally not luddite, the union contract permits writers to use AIs when it benefits themselves

[–] AssaultRifle15@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (7 children)

They're 16 years old. It's perfectly natural to be a complete idiot when you're a child. I was a bog-standard libertarian at their age, there's still plenty of time to turn around.

[–] asa_red_heathen@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

Idk when I was 16 I was the normal sort of stupid 16 yos are, not this hilterlite trash

[–] regul@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Yes but also it's in black and white in the Constitution:

"The right to consume treats shall not be infringed."

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

I was a bazinga futurologist liberal at a young age. I'd be pleased to go back in time and dunk my previous self. cyber-lenin

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[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Love calling someone a Luddite while he made a video with a phone to post it on social media, very Luddite indeed

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[–] manuallybreathing@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ludd is infact, the only king I recognise o7

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[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really don't know how liberals can square the circle with their whole "we are the furthest left in this country and you need to vote for us to stop fascism" bullshit.

What even is fascism to them? They don't seem to care about anything other than when Trump did mean tweets.

Biden has given more money to the police after BLM, Biden has drilled more oil, he started a new war, ended COVID help, is still detaining and separating families at the border, union busting...

The list is long

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Chibified bazinga quasi-anime avatars are often more likely to be chud related than actual anime avatars. The number of nationalistic imperial flags is also stacking the deck for chuddery. sus-soviet

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the luddites were worried that industrialisation would lower standards of living for the english lower classes. The industrial revolution then did that

the luddites were objectively correct

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