Hey man. Looks like the answer to that is YES how have you been? Its been awhile lol.
this post was submitted on 29 Mar 2025
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We are going to try and get it done this weekend. The problem is, we have not figured out an easy solution for keeping accounts made on chapo.chat with the same username as a @hexbear.net account. We will be having to delete those @chapo.chat accounts and notify users, but a combination of irl getting in the way and wanting to find a better solution has delayed action.
Append _2_2_2 onto the usernames and call it a day
Best if we delete them or something else needed for those with chat accounts?
no, we have made changes to differentiate the two accounts in the back-end and those who have duplicate accounts should be able to log into the @hexbear.net version without problem. If anyone has issues please let me know
Awesome! Morning brain made it sound like user would also need to do something.
So far seems good on mine. Not getting "account not found" on apps now
is there going to be a larger post on this prior to action being taken?
A larger post on what?
Soon 
Yes.
Carcosa posted this 2 weeks ago:
2 days left... 
I've ended up believing the never-fedders actually have it right. I gots my libverse-acct over at sh.itjust.works and i feed on them brainworms when i have the need for my sloppies, then come back here explicitly to not see the nazis. l... just think it's better for all.
That being said i don't feel super strong about it, but i do think it will come up again and I'll keep that lesson in my back pocket for the next time it comes to a vote
I like being federated because then my lemmy experience feels like an actual replacement for reddit because I can get out of the politics bubbles and talk about something else. Also arguing with bewildered libs is funny.
But like you said it's really neither here nor there for me.
The staff are sure taking their sweet time, though!
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I think really the core issue here was a sort of broader issue of poor communication and lack of transparency that goes beyond individual admins. In other words, what made me impatient about refederation in the above comment, is less how long it's taking and more that I just didn't know why it was taking so long: since Carcosa has now provided us in this thread with more of the background for why things are moving at this pace, I now think it seems like a much more reasonable pace — I can accept that the admins need to do what they need to do, and take the time that they need to take to do these things, Hell I feel bad for them for needing to deal with all this nonsense. What they're dealing with does sound like a drag!
So my impatience here was, if anything, really a manifestation of this underlying tension caused by that broader communication issue, which surfaced with the domain name revocation back in mid-February and has only continued in its aftermath. Because having that chaos of the domain name revocation just thrusted upon us "rank-and-file" users without warning, when the admins were able to provide us with ample warning of Impending Disaster long in advance... I dunno, that type of incident might create some lasting trust issues, right? And lack of trust tends to create discontent or hostility, even in cases where this is not really rational or productive.
So I think that was the basis for my impatience here: that as long as the explanation for the wait for refederation was just left at "technical issues ... we'll be back by the end of the month" rather than the admins explaining what specifically the technical issues were and what they would have to do to fix them, that I was just going to fill in the blanks with whatever felt fitting in the context of the previous incident that had undermined my trust in the admins.
This tension I've identified here can certainly be resolved at some point through action on both my own or the admins' part, but in any case just being told that the admins are "unpaid volunteers" at even just the implication of dissatisfaction... Well, I can't exactly dispute that fact, and I can even recognize that I probably am causing the admins stress by being vocally dissatisfied with them, which might lead to burnout down the road — but the "unpaid volunteers" line is still a little frustrating, isn't it? I guess because the underlying tension is still there and ought to be resolved regardless of whether the admins are getting paid — that pointing out that they're "unpaid volunteers" comes across as just being dismissive of any grievances that someone might have with how this site is run, regardless of the legitimacy of those grievances.
I guess I'm just thinking out loud here, though.
when the admins were able to provide us with ample warning of Impending Disaster long in advance...
I mean I can see why you'd think that, but I don't think that's actually what any of the admin posts have said specifically. They said an auto-payment failed to go through on the domain (https://hexbear.net/post/4470321), and presumably since the only one with access to it was the AWOL admin, the rest of the admins had no advance notice about this.
What they did say (https://hexbear.net/post/4468531 and others) is that they knew it was possible this could happen in the future because of this person's inconsistent communication and availability. And I mean, maybe I'm reaching here but, an admin with sole access to the domain registrar account must have been around from pretty early on, at least as early as the change from .chat to .net... If you had an old friend who was causing trouble by being unavailable, but would come around every so often and apologize profusely and say it won't happen again, and make things right for the moment... You might be frustrated, but are you really going to air that dirty laundry publicly when as far as you know everything is humming along fine on autopay? No
The other gripes are 100% reasonable though, its wild that the domain was lost in the first place, going no-comms for a month after about getting federation back up isn't great either, nor has communication about non-technical matters been great over the past year+. The defensiveness some people have for the admins, I assume, is because there are some people on this site who seem to just have an axe to grind against the whole admin team and show up in the most sensitive and inflamed struggle sessions and just go full aggro every time... and then go back to posting like nothing happened. Its weird, like yeah definitely normal to have some gripes or quibbles with the admins but if you hate it that much you should just leave for your own sake tbh, the internet is a big place.
I will say it seems like there's a divide between the user-facing admins doing comms and the technical people keeping the site running, and I suspect given how long this stuff has dragged on that it's not a big team, or at least not a lot of them are active. If that's the case I'd really hope they're recruiting from the mod ranks to get more people in, to do more than just keep the lights on. My boss (ugh I know but he's right in this case) points this out all the time, a lot of organizations don't have staff that build things and improve things, they have caretakers. Often skeleton crews. despite the site being almost as big as ever. That's just my theory though. And frankly if they're insisting on anonymity for the admins (for valid reason to be clear), and run a politically sensitive site like this, bringing new people in is a bit of a leap of faith, you can't just bring in anyone who wants it and has the time or skills lest you attract wreckers, doxxers, feds, etc.
the unpaid volunteers bit would be pretty frustrating if it were being wielded as a "no criticism allowed" stick. Like it's true, but for the most part I think everyone here is more than reasonable about that fact.
Yeah, I guess you're right.