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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by GinAndJuche@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

The consumption is the point. They just want candy not a meal. They want fucking marvelslop not Cinema.

Inb4 let people enjoy things, the mindset on display is a perfect member of capitalist society. A mindless consumption machine.

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[-] Yurt_Owl@hexbear.net 61 points 10 months ago

Hexbear is my mindless slop

Honey! Time to look another Twitter screenshot in the dunk tank of someone repeating Zionist propaganda!

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[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Please be fucking normalllll and yes let people enjoy things

Don't hate on fans and Marvel's popularity because the movies lack cinematic sophistry or is artistically stagnant

Hate because it's propaganda and infests people with brainworms

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago
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[-] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

same-picture

Art consumption is a form of literacy and the vast majority of people are functionally illiterate. This makes capitalist propaganda easy and communist propaganda harder.

Edit: I still don’t blame people for consuming their slop, though. The anti-capeshit vs let-people-enjoy-things discourse is just the most inflammatory version of much more interesting conversation.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

It is pretty scary just how many easy to consume slop works are about the nonpolitical concept of very special people that are born with a unique epic destiny that must (sometimes secretly) police over and rule over the unwashed unruly masses to maintain the status quo against bad people that want to change it, or for the Vincent Adultmen, how common it is to present the Adults In The Room Making The Hard Decisions and Getting Shit (atrocities, usually) Done.

[-] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It’s such a standard framing, yeah. Same with the “follow your dreams and never give up” bullshit that amounts to “commodify everything that makes you unique and quietly endure the harrowing conditions you’ll face along the way”. It’s the grindset. It’s capitalist realism. It’s a motor for the reserve army of labor. And importantly, it’s false consciousness. You can essentially encourage the portion of your population who’s most likely to rise up (young educated adults) to instead spend that time dreaming of becoming a small business owner or an artisan. And you can do so without provided them a material base for those ambitions. 1 in 1000 makes it and the working class loses twice.

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[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

No it sucks because it’s artistically stagnant dogshit

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

Okay yea it sucks so much. I should've said don't hate on fans for that though

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I’ll hate on whoever I want. You will never get me to believe it’s ok that society’s culture revolves around marvelbrained baby slop. It’s a sign of deep, deep problems with that society

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

I highly respect that as a hater in recovery myself

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

Your hate was never pure enough if you have allowed yourself to regress back into accepting this dreck

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[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

You will never get me to believe it’s ok that society’s culture revolves around marvelbrained baby slop.

You're a Thanos to our Avengers; HEXBEARS ASSEMBLE!

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[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

Dorks can have exactly one (1) artistically bankrupt mega franchise that they enjoy, mostly because it made an impression on them as a child.

I'm stuck with Star Wars, and I'll have to live with hoping something like Andor season 1 to happen again for the rest of my life.

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[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

"Be normal" as a motto in such a diseased society is, uh, not good leftism whatever your podcast papa tells you

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[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They just want candy not a meal. They want fucking marvelslop not Cinema.

shrug I don't know why you need to get on people's cases about this. They're equating this to cheap candy bars, ffs. They know. We know they know.

Inb4 let people enjoy things

But you still should. There's no point in ragging on folks for liking a thing you don't like, even if we can say that it's cheap and lazy and bad at an objective level.

Given how the franchise has slumped since Infiniti War, it feels like you're kicking a dead horse. The production of these films is getting slowed down as their ratings tank out. "The Marvels" brought in a pathetic $6.6M its opening day. The Barbie Movie and Oppenheimer both proved people are interested in different slop. Finding the last guy on Reddit who is still into this shit and yelling at them... like, why, bro?

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[-] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago

No, everything has to be serious at all times and we cannot find any humor in the absurdity of hell world. The last time I smiled was on August 19th, 1991. I wear a dirty ushanka at all times, do not shave, and only take cold sponge baths because hot running water is bourgeoisie decadence. Every day at exactly noon I have the same meal of an expired Maoist MRE I store in a pit covered in old issues of a revolutionary newspaper. I sleep in a bed made of flags from every failed revolution so that they are never forgotten. In the evenings I stare at a picture of vodka by candlelight, but I do not allow myself to drink because there is nothing to celebrate. Every local org has banned me after I attempted to split it by assassinating the leadership. There is no plumbing in my house I shit in a brass bucket with a picture of Gonzalo and Deng french kissing in the bottom of it. My house is actually an overturned T34 in an abandoned junkyard in Wisconsin. I have a single friend in this world and it is a tapeworm named Bordiga that I met after ingesting spoiled borscht on 9/11 in the ruins of building 7 (I blew it up after finding that a nominally leftist NGO inside of it wasn’t sufficiently anti-imperialist, the attacks on the world trade center were a perfect revolutionary moment for me to enact direct praxis against liberalism). My source of income is various MLM schemes in the former soviet bloc that have been running for so long no one remembers who I am, they just keep sending money. I have not paid taxes since McGovern lost the Democratic nomination for president and my faith in electoralism died more brutally than my childhood dog after it got into an entire jar of tylenol. I own 29 fully automatic rusted kalashnikovs and three crates of ammunition entirely incompatible with them or any other firearms I own. My double PHD in marxist economics and 18th century Swiss philosophy (required to understand Engels) sits over the fireplace of my home, my fireplace is a salvaged drum from a 1950s washing machine that was recalled for locking children inside of it. I chose that washing machine model on purpose because I am anti-natalist. During the latest BLM protests I firebombed a Nikes outlet in the middle of a peaceful candlelit vigil. William F Buckley and I wrote hatemail to one another for 47 years until my final letter gave him an aneurysm. The only water I drink is from puddles. George Lucas and I dropped acid together during an MKULTRA southern baptist summer camp and he went on to write the movie Willow about our time together. The best way to test whether an electrical wire is live is to drool on it and shrimp salad is racist. You can make an IED out of potassium and the instructions are online thanks to Timothy McVey, who was actually a committed antifascist communist slandered by the deep state as part of operation condor. Every time a liberal files a restraining order against me, I carve a mark into the wall. I am running out of walls. When Amerika finally collapses I will be ready to lead the revolution. I am very smart and people like being around me.

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[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago

When did we all start "consuming" everything? I've never consumed a media in my life. I've watched a lot of movies and tv shows. I've read a number of books, magazines, and newspaper articles. I've played lots of games. But why do people insist on using capitalist slang to describe their own habits. It's bad enough they call everyone "CONSOOMERS" for everything in state media, but why bring it on yourself too?

[-] PapaEmeritusIII@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

Hard agree. I hate how the words “consume” and “content” are excessively used

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[-] Self_Hating_Moid@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Movie nerds when someone says their favorite film is "The Avengers" and not a 7 hour silent Bulgarian film with 0 discernable plot or characters

Edit: marvek is slop

[-] the_kid@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

you will watch Stalker and you will enjoy it

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[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

A movie with no discernable characters would at least be kind of interesting if it was still live-action

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[-] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Personally, I'm on the "don't be an asshole" side of things when it comes to people with very awful, but ultimately harmless taste in entertainment.

But also enjoying slop is not an identity. If it really hurts your feelings when someone dunks on you for legitimately enjoying Spiderman XXVI: A Megaverse at Home or whatever it was called, then you should probably take a closer look at the unhealthy way you're internalizing your connection to media consumption.

I wouldn't partake in dunking on someone for that, mostly because I kinda get it. I also like to shut my brain off every once in a while and enjoy mindless fast-foodified entertainment slop, but if someone wanted to roast me for it I'd probably laugh at myself with them. (Note: I always pirate that shit, I wouldn't be caught fucking dead paying for it and I will always relentlessly mock pay pigs for being some of the most boot addicted people on this Earth)

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[-] Stylistillusional@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago

Everybody is sincere posting about people enjoying stuff. But nobody's talking about how you could possibly feel satisfied after eating a whole bag of candy, instead of feeling like dogshit.

Those small bags of crisps they have in Asia > disgusting Western 300 grams Lays.

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

Americans have way too much sugar, I was talking to a yank irl and he said he would have over a liter of soft drink a day. ????? I honestly thought he was joking.

Also, I know Brits put sugar in tea (gross, but you do you), and then I had American tea. What the actual fuck.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

Burgerland puts high fructose corn syrup in bread. Bread.

It's actually hard to find bread in Burgerland that doesn't contain sugar that doesn't need to be there. 🍞 sus-torment

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[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

Also, I know Brits put sugar in tea (gross, but you do you)

you're supposed to have sugar in tea proportional to the extent your job involves manual labour. It's a weird custom that dates back to when tea replaced alcohol as the drink of choice and then loads of people suddenly were missing the caloric content of alcohol

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[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago

I don't care that he has a lack of artistic interest in film. I'm glad the movies make him happy

that said I do hope that the recent marvel failures results in an end to the trend of everything being a cinematic universe

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

That's fine, though? A big part of relaxing is just turning your brain off and embracing your inner potatoe. There are certainly many people that deserve your criticism, but this one seems like a self-concious statement that the person just wants dumb slop, like 90s action movies or whatever

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I wonder if when Marvel introduces Captain Israel (I've no idea what her name is; she's IDF too) if she'll have as part of her backstory that she participated in the genocide of Palestinians happening right now; maybe she can attack a random brown family in America when she sees that one of them wears a Palestinian scarf (as some zionist person attacked a (Sikh) dad (who was wearing a Palestinian scarf) holding his kid, throwing hot coffee at him and allegedly saying she hoped his kid would burn in an oven).

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The Palestinians will have superpowers provided by an evil god (Allah) and they need to feed off the souls of pure white Israeli babies for fuel

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[-] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

hexbear being extremely normal about media consumption again

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Honestly agree with the second comment because modern trailers basically spoil movies, and a ton of reviewers just write complete trash. Like sure I'll look at rotten tomatoes scores just to check that what I'm going to watch isn't complete nonsense, but I'm not going to read a review written by someone that might not even understand the movie themselves. See the original reviews for Starship Troopers, the reviewers completely missed the entire point of the film. Media literacy has never been great, and it's honestly been at an all time low in the past few years.

The difference is that I probably won't find superhero slop or Prestige TV slop entertaining/fun though. Honestly tuned out of the superhero movies after Age of Ultron. They're not really movies anymore, just really long series episodes with a large gap in between.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago
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[-] Sasuke@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

as a non-native speaker it's still crazy to me that the word 'consumption' is used about media

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[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

These people should just get a lobotomy and spend the rest of their life in a skinner pleasure machine dripping dopamine into their useless minds

[-] AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 10 months ago

Alright, maybe the good people of hexbear can help me with this.

I've been reading/hearing for years how people consuming shit media won't listen to the critics and just enjoy it. Scathing yet honest criticism will come with the notion that the thing isn't worth consuming, implicit or explicit. Are there really people going above and beyond to try to make people feel bad for the media they consume?

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

Media consumption as a personal identity is a fuck

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[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

When is the “let people enjoy things” struggle session?

antelope-popcorn

But tbf, I understand where the criticism comes from if you have a deep belief that media partially shapes reality

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