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[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not genocide because population is going up

is textbook Holocaust denial. Like "exhibits at Auschwitz" textbook.

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the best bit is:

because they already reject a huge body of evidence that proves otherwise, they've stumbled into literally deconstructing their own Uighur genocide narrative with their own dogshit definitions

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they've already forgotten that ever happened

until the next time they open a thread about China, at which point they'll forget about Israel and Palestine

the liberal brainpan can only conceptualise one completely individual idea at a time

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[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

i've seen people claim that about the uighurs. (iirc the real thing is that ethnic minorities weren't held to the one child policy.)

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think it's a weak argument with the Uighur genocide to point to increasing population, but to be fair the full argument is that the population is increasing AND there's no refugee crisis AND there's literally no evidence of genocide at all that wasn't just the made up ramblings of Adrian Zenz.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

There's more Uyghurs, and they're living longer, and they're more educated, and they have better housing conditions, and they make more money, all taken together makes it very hard to make out genocide.

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Yeah if the government wanted to do a genocide why would they exclude the allegedly genocided minorities from the harsh population control laws. Like they're literally making a law to decrease the population. You'd think that would be the perfect time to target it at minorities unfairly if you wanted to do genocide, but they didn't.

[–] Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

I think it's more about that they were excluded from the one child policy.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh hey, antitankie coming out as fascist, this surely never happened before! XD

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

how come there's so much overlap in the anti-communist and pro-fascism movements?? 🤔

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

~~Might be because fascism is direct response to communism, pure dialectics.~~ No it's just a coincidence, in fact, communism and fascism are the same and the liberalism is the only correct option!

[–] DanComrd@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, some people call me an ultra for no reason. I agree with them. I'm an Ultra Centrist smuglord

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[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The US has done more genocide and gotten away with it so it is fine"

is a hell of a take

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

Every time I see "bad thing happened somewhere else therefore bad thing happening is fine" takes, I get more and more disgusted. disgost

[–] pillow@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

holy shit that very last line caught me off guard yikes-1yikes-3

[–] Plibbert@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago

Fuckin right. At first I was like damn these are some shit takes. Then that last line. Fuckin yiiiiiikes.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sam Harrism intensifies

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[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Some of you redditor liberals seriously voted to federate with these mask-off fascists.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

Sh.itjust.genocides

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

oh hey look, poobsessed gronk goat doing nazi shit. how very suprising

[–] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So convenient how all these freaks ignore the in part part of the "In whole or in part" wording of the UN definition of genocide

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

It isn't real genocide unless it comes from Hitler's last days of fighting a losing war, otherwise it's just sparkling ethnic cleansing.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Behold the wages of both sides @Civility@hexbear.net debate perversion. hypersus

[–] jaeme@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wtf is going on with that instance? Like why haven't they scrubbed that user off their site, we've been clowning on them for like months now.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago

If it's been this long, and nothing's been done about that user, that community, or that community's aggregated userbase, it can be reliably assumed the people who run the instance are in on the scam. sh.itsfulla.nazis.

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Why would they be scrubbed? Tankietarianism is extremely unpopular in imperial core countries, and goat's response in that screenshot seems like the bog standard take anyone under 40 who isn't a left wing extremist would have.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Crikey, wouldja lookit that, a whole flock of Amerikan Peckerwoods (Mastigia album americanus) (not to be confused with Mastigia album britannica) in their natural habitat, and in their natural routine!

Bits aside, I can't believe people actually wanted to federate with filth like that.

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[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Rich coming from peoples who accuse US of genocide denial for not believing unsourced/fabricated narratives by the CIA and the literal NAZIs.

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they are intentionally targeting civilian infrastructure because they want to ethnically cleanse the region. they have said this again and again and again. The fucking "well what is a genocide, really?" when government officials are talking about how Palestinians aren't human and need to be purged is such horseshit.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm surprised I haven't seen some smuglord connect xinjiang to people shooting down the growth rates charts on Gaza. It was used heavily by leftists as a point to cut through the Xinjiang bullshit.

What they don't seem to realise is that it worked for leftists there because forced sterilisation for the cause of an ethnic Han supremacist takeover was part of the myth, not just murdering 2 million people in non-existent industrial deathcamps that also didn't show up in the numbers.

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean for that reason specifically that argument seemed very poorly reasoned to me. Makes it way too easy for them to retreat to less absurd claims of things that are still not happening, but still genocide, like forced secularization and cultural suppression.

[–] pooh@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

more like sh.itjustdont.work amirite

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Why is it always fucking goat what the fuck is wrong with them

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