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Was making coffee and considering throwing out my K-cup coffee maker because I almost exclusively use a French press now, and got curious what other people did

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[-] thebartermyth@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

I use the $3k Dolce & Gabbana stovetop coffeemaker

[-] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

sorry to break it to you buddy, but you made a bad purchase

the $4k Supreme stovetop coffeemaker is a bit more expensive, but it makes vastly superior coffee, because it has "Supreme" written on it

[-] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Hooboy, am I glad you asked!

TL;DR: I work from home, so I can brew individual cups rather than filling a big thermos. I use pourover methods like a V60 and a Koar (I have the acrylic one) or the humble Melitta filter holder. Each one is good in its own way. They require some other gear, so if you want something real easy to use, go for the Clever dripper or especially the Aeropress. Sorry if you weren't looking for recommendations.

Here's my process: I buy my coffee green, either from local farmers or from dealers who do coffee hunting around farms in central Brazil, in Minas, north of São Paulo and sometimes Espírito Santo or the north of Paraná. Green beans are much, much cheaper than roasted. I usually get like 5-10kg (11-22lb) at a time because green beans keep for a very long time.

Once every two weeks or so I roast a batch, which I usually will do in one of these ways:

  • The hot air gun + bowl method, in which I put the green beans inside a stainless steel colander placed inside a steel pot, and then I'll just blast them with hot air while whisking them around for usually 10-11 minutes depending on what degree of roast tickles my fancy at any given time.

  • The cast iron skillet method, in which I put the beans inside a heavy ass cast iron skillet with high walls and then I'll stir them with a whisk until, once again, I reach the level I'm looking for. This method is not as messy but seems to make much more smoke.

  • The Hive roaster which I don't use as often because I think it's better suited for pros who want a sample roaster. I'm not a pro, I roast for myself, so I don't really need to do much testing - I love (almost) all the coffee I roast.

  • An electric popcorn popper. This one I haven't used in a very long time because the batches are very small. It's very easy, though, and more hands-free than the other options.

Regardless of which method I decide to use, after roasting I immediately dump the roasted beans into a cooling box that I made from plywood, and which is connected to my vacuum cleaner. It sucks room-temp air through the beans and helps them cool down ASAP, which is what you want.

Now, my methods for preparing my coffee all involve freshly ground beans. I bought a Bravo IT, AKA a Bravito, a very very fancy bougie grinder that a local coffee pro makes, it's on par with a Comandante C40 or a Kinu, but I got it on prerelease before it had become famous (locally, at least) and paid less than half the current price. I will protect it with my life. My secondary one is a Timemore Slim, which doesn't seem to be available anymore.

On a regular day, as I said before, I'll use a V60, a Koar or a Melitta pourover, but I always use regular ass Melitta filters folding them as necessary in order to fit all these filter holders, and that's because I don't want to spend a lot of money on filters. I've used cloth filters in the past, too, and they're great if you know how to take care of them.

I always make my pourover coffee with a gooseneck kettle. I just have a cheap one, the Hario was way too expensive. I don't know all the fine details about how exactly it is better than a regular kettle, but I know for sure that it's a hell of a lot easier to control and handle. Which is great when it's early in the morning and you haven't had your first coffee yet.

I'll also sometimes brew with my 3-cup Moka pot, a Clever dripper (although I haven't used mine in a while) and there's an Aeropress that I leave at my mom's place for whenever I go visit. I'm not a fan of French press, but I do enjoy using the press itself as a container for cold brew, which actually sounds lovely right now and I should get a batch ready for tomorrow.

I also have a Flair NEO, which is a lever espresso machine for dummies. There is no way I could afford a really good, proper espresso machine, so the NEO really fits the bill for someone like me, a very enthusiastic amateur who doesn't work with coffee and doesn't really have a ton of money to spend on this. Mind you, all of this stuff I'm talking about has been acquired over the past five or so years.

I think that's it. The specific method depends, once again, on what I feel like doing at any given moment. I'm satisfied with where I am right now and I don't want to spend more money on this hobby anymore, because the next steps would be very very expensive: courses, a proper roaster for larger batches, a large volume grinder to sell pre-ground beans, and so on. The sky is the limit.

If you or anyone has any questions to ask, I'd be happy to be the resident coffee nerd!

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

Tag yourself I'm still Marxist-Leninist

[-] CatoPosting@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

As the Clever Dripper is something between a French Press and a pour over, I'm an anarco-hoxhaist I guess

[-] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

Every week I roast my own green coffee beans on the stove so I get freshly roasted stuff literally every single day.

Daily I throw it in a grinder, put it in a french press and go wild.

[-] voight@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

That's cool so they come like fermented already? Is that cheaper or are you going after flavor here?

[-] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

That's cool so they come like fermented already? Is that cheaper or are you going after flavor here?

They come ready to roast if that's what you mean. It's cheaper than most specialty coffee but the real upside is having the taste of "The first cup from the bag" every single morning. Unless you drink a lot of coffee, even your bag of roasted whole beans loses flavor after a month. You roast it every weekend however and you get that fresh flavor.

The greens can technically go stale too but it's in the realm of years until you see a noticeable difference.

[-] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Some coffee is processed with fermentation, but that's usually just to make removing the cherry easier. That process is called washed process coffee (and honey process is similar but with less water). The coffee bean is the seed inside the cherry. The bean itself doesn't ferment, although it can be affected by the process.

[-] bubbalu@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

If you get an air popper, it's the perfect thing to roast cup-sized coffee batches! The more cooked beans get pushed away from the heating element so its literally perfect.

[-] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

I tried that but I get good results just stirring in a non-stick pan.

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[-] dannoffs@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Step out of the way you stinky proles, the true coffee bourgeoisie has arrived.

I have a La Marzocco GB5 commercial espresso machine in my "office" that I'll use If I don't want to make a whole pot on the Ratio or am too lazy to use one of literally any brew methods you could think of I have on hand. On the weekends, I'll go into the cafe and have the baristas make me an espresso. At home I have a vintage 70's Conti lever espresso machine, and a kalita wave, Chemex, and aeropress that I cycle through depending on how I'm feeling and the coffee. The instant that I just had made actually slaps so I'll make that if I'm on the road.

[-] the_kid@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

La Marzocco GB5 commercial espresso machine

CommiePOGGERS

my dream is to have my own La Marzocco machine some day, but I don't think I'll ever be able to justify spending so much money on a machine + a grinder + everything else.

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[-] Deadend@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

Mr. Coffee, filter, a couple scoops of pre ground from Aldi. A bit of creamer.

Are there better ways? Yeah. Do I want to do them on weekdays before I’ve had coffee? No

[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

I'm gonna out myself as a bougie LIB here - I have one of these:

I always buy the darkest beans I can get my hands on. First coffee of the day is an americano (I run the double shot option four times). Second of the day I make myself a lattee, usually plain but sometimes with salted caramel syrup.

I fuckin love my espresso machine. Easily the best coffee-related investment I have ever made.

[-] flan@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

I do french press. Easy to maintain and is pretty portable for travel purposes. Makes a good cup of coffee.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

whole beans → grinder → French press

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I really like piñon coffee which is made from pine nuts. Amazon has this brand - New Mexico Piñon Coffee

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

Cold brew. Just need some largish jars depending on how much you want to make. Grind the beans (on the coarse side), put in the jar(s) for ~18+ hrs with 4:1 ratio of water to grounds. Filter and enjoy. Very low effort, tastes great (low acid) and good caffeine density. I'll make hot coffee rarely.

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

moka pot bc i'm twisted like that

Death to America

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[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

french press french press the press is best. i'm not very picky tbh i just like a system i fully understand and can clean every lil bit of. also limited amount of plastic

a lil fucking clock on a mr coffee is too much complication imo

[-] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

No, personally I'm more of a tea person.

[-] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

what's your favorite kind of tea?

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[-] charlie@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

Instant Coffee, not too fussed about the brand but Mount Hagen is my special treat brand.

[-] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

No, but I still do all sorts of terrible things to coffee, like do a 50-50 blend with caffinated soda if I need extra energy, or with a tea like yerba mate. I like iced coffee and coffee slushes in summer. Heavy cream is way out of my budget, so I substiute cool whip or the coconut version depending what's on sale to make an affordable cream coffee, then I sometimes add tea to that to make a sort of fancy milk tea-coffee just missing boba pearls.

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

Preface: I work in a cafe style restaurant with a fancy Italian espresso machine

Double espresso, no sugar, 5-6 days a week. Most of my colleagues that drink coffee either have flat whites or cappuccinos, except the Italian chef who also only drinks espresso.

At home I've got loose leaf oolong imported from China for my caffeine intake.

[-] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

ditch the K-cup! literally anything else is better lol

I have a modded gaggia espresso machine ( https://gaggiuino.github.io/#/ ) from craigslist originally which has been a fun project and makes decent espresso even with my meager skills and grinder (baratza encore)

I've also historically done pourover (hario stuff. if I had to do it again I'd get a hario switch I think), and aeropress (for a single cup its great, I do it with an inverted method, not too picky on the recipe or exact process, but I don't like the right-side-up way where the water can drip out while it's still infusing)

[-] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

hario v60

gone through just about every device over the years and nothing else gets the combo of great coffee, easy to make, easy to clean up as well as the v60 (or any other pour over really)

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[-] nothx@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

I used to use a french press, but then I realized that good fresh ground in a Mr. Coffee is more than fine. I can make a whole pot for my partner and I to work through in the morning and that’s that.

I’ll occasionally still pull out the French Press for a single cup for myself cuz I love it, but more often than not the drip coffee maker is the path of least resistance and makes a good cup of coffee.

Its all about the beans.

[-] impiri@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Cold brew has ruined everything else for me. Get some roasted beans, grind about 6oz very coarsely, then put it in this OXO cold brew thingy for about 18 hours. I add equal parts concentrate and boiling water into a warming mug.

You can (and probably should) make it more concentrated so that it's less total work, but certain members of my family were not diluting it enough

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

At home, I grind from whole bean with a Baratza Encore. Pretty decent conical burr grinder for the money.

  • Aeropress: Daily driver at home. Easy brew and clean up with minimal waste. There's a technique for brewing with the press upside down that outputs a pretty great cup.

  • French Press: If I'm brewing for myself and others or feel like having a coffee with a more full body, I'll use this.

  • Chemex: This used to be my daily driver. It outputs a clean cup of coffee, but I haven't used it much since I got the Aeropress. Easy to brew, but it uses a really big filter.

I'd like an espresso machine, but I don't have the counter space or money for it.

[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Aeropress. Totally worth it. One cup of dark roast per day.

[-] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Hand grinded in burr grinder, then pour over in v60 or Kalita Wave. I also have a timer + scale.

I have coffee every two or three days, so I don't go through a ton.

[-] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Roast once a week, in a modified popcorn roaster.

If the roast came out right, espresso machine, adjusting grind for 22g coffee yielding 20-25g liquid in 25 seconds.

If the roast is light, pour-over with a metal filter, otherwise, turkish style on the stove (though grinding it that fine messes up the grinder).

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[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

A light roast because it has more caffeine and better flavours

A French press because I'm too lazy to use an aeropress or pourover for individual cups

Cinnamon + powdered coconut milk. The cinnamon takes away bitterness, the coconut milk is a subtly sweet creamer

[-] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

the caffeine difference is pretty negligible btw and may actually be the opposite depending on how you measure/brew. (dark roasts are less dense so you get more beans for the same weight dose so more caffeine) But yea love a good light roast

[-] voight@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

Cold brew and I need to chill on it because it gives me this deadpan enthusiasm that's indistinguishable from hostility

[-] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

I used to buy growlers of coldpress from a local joint and just slug that stuff straight all the time and yeah it really does a number on you after a while lmao

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[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

Eat the beans whole like a real crusty ass anarchist!

But I also, the press is king. We have a Barratza Encore grinder, a Bhemore Brazen auto drip for work mornings, a moka pot, and a Vietnamese phin. Different ways for different tastes, I really like manual methods. I'd like to pick up an aeropress some day.

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

Black with honey and coconut sugar. It’s incredible everyone should try it

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[-] mxl@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

For me it's whole beans (light roast). I like the Aeropress, but I use a 1-cup Bialetti moka pot 90% of the time because it uses less coffee and the result is still pretty good. In the mornings I usually add a splash of milk and after lunch no milk. I never use sugar or any other sweeteners.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

I used a French press until I kept breaking it and someone bought me a cheapish metal pourover. Impossible to break. Honestly I prefer the pourover now. It's not really more work and it makes the coffee smoother texture wise. And it's simple; grind beans, put in the filter area, pour just enough to get the grounds wet, wait 30 seconds, pour in the rest, come back in 2 minutes, done. Takes the same amount of time and is maybe one extra step (the bloom step) than a French press but is overall still very easy. I also find the metal filter easier to clean on the pourover than the filter on the French press. The only downside is I get very fine particulate at the bottom of my cup which...whatever. I don't drink that part.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

French press daily sounds great! I always take too much time cleaning it. What's your cleaning routine? Do you grind daily?

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[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

standard american brew machine. I'd like to be able to use my percolator again sometime soon but I have an induction stove now and it doesn't work anymore

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

During spring and summer I usually make cold brew once a week, but once it gets colder I drink either filter or aeropress coffee, depending on how much of a rush I'm in.

[-] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

Most of the time it's trash motel coffee, at home i have an espresso maker and make lungos.

[-] kota@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

I have a relatively nice grinder and an aeropress. I've used traditional presses, moka pots, a v60, and so on but I definitely prefer the aeropress. It's extremely easy and consistent. Once you have your recipe dialed there's almost nothing you can do to fuck it up so I just never get any astringency or acidity.

That said the grinder is definitely more important than the brew method. If you have $70 to spend; get a $65 grinder and get a $5 press or v60 at a thrift shop. You definitely want an electric grinder with nice ceramic burrs if you can afford it.

I used a hand grinder for years. A very nice and accurate one. The idea of using a hand grinder + moka pot was very romantic to me, but in practice it's a huge pain in the ass and the coffee will never come out as good as a silly looking plastic aeropress.

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