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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3482200

USA apartheid

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[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 59 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

In 1954, you had a White water fountain and a Colored water fountain.

In 2024, we have abolished water fountains and try to sell you the same water in a plastic bottle that costs $5. Also, whites live in these enormous suburban enclaves where you'll never seen a person of color because real estate agents simply won't sell to them.

[–] RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

because real estate agents simply won’t sell to them.

It's also because our state and local officials either A) completely misunderstand how to distribute Low-Income Housing Credits or B) Have a full understanding of the consequences of concentrating poverty within a central location via Low-Income Housing Credits, and do it anyway.

If you do not spread the LIHCs around your state / city within “High Opportunity” areas, you just compound the poverty. When you stack poor people on top of poor people under the guise of “Well this area is full of poor people so let's designate more LIHC there because they need them.” you just create a multiplicative effect on the areas' poverty. No one can afford to patronize the businesses in the area, and no one living in the area can afford to open a business. Which means no local employment for the poor, and no local commerce for the poor. They have to travel for work, travel for groceries, travel for everything. This means they're either buying a car and maintaining it, or attempting to rely on dilapidated public transportation.

What you get are dens of poverty that actually make it even harder to rise out of poverty, and total segregation of a population that ultimately skews black and brown. The real estate agents hardly need to expend any energy to be racist when the structures they work inside of area doing most of the heavy lifting for them.

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

All that is true. But there's also the issue of Red Lining and race-based lending practices and real estate shitfuckery that make certain neighborhoods - which would otherwise be affordable to everyone in the given income bracket - inaccessible to PoCs. This, combined with staunch refusal to adopt multi-lingual education (particularly the dreaded Spanish), and segregation of education (whites-only Universities), and segregation of career paths (engineering firms and legal firms and hospitals/clinics that won't take on junior hires outside their ethnic group), force people to cluster together by circumstance.

This doesn't even need to be segregation by income, either. Houston's Bellaire district is overwhelmingly Vietnamese (and South East Asian generally speaking) in large part because its the only part of town that caters to Vietnamese non-Native speakers. There's no shortage of wealth and even some amount of political power consolidated in Bellaire, but its still functionally a ghetto.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

It's definitely B. The wealthy don't want the poors anywhere near them, and they'll go to great efforts to ensure they never have to notice or interact with them.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

We live in a much more civilized time. Nowadays we poison the water of minority communities with lead and then drag our heels to fix it even after it becomes national news. And of course no one responsible for it will ever be held accountable for their actions. Hooray for progress!

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Nowadays we poison the water of minority communities with lead and then drag our heels to fix it even after it becomes national news

We poison the water with lead and ten years later we send in the police to deal with all the crime. The machine of politics uses it all to justify amplifying the policies we always wanted to embrace.

And where does the money for the next round of policing come from? Well... that next district over just can't afford clean water anymore.

[–] goatmeal@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

Jokes on past America because both fountains have lead.

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I’m white. Where’s my free house?

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can’t comprehend this article.

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago

sounds about right for a cracker

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Way to not recognize a joke when you see one.

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That's fine the audience is just letting you know your joke sucked. You gotta satirize the chud talking points not just repeat them exactly.

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dang, didn’t realize this place has been infiltrated by a bunch of libs. My bad.

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Much better, definitely making some progress. Doesn't really make sense in context, but you really can't go wrong calling someone a lib around here. That's always going to land.

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I’ve never commented here before, but this community really does have a weird vibe. Like, is it not based a comedy podcast? What am I missing? Feel like everyone here is weirdly serious and a little overly sensitive.

[–] GarfGirl@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

We're actually a community about the drug lord chapo, not the podcast chapo

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's primarily a shitposting board for communists / anarchists / Marxism / left unity in general, but also hosts a lot of book clubs (Das Kapital being the most active atm) and serious discussion in the news mega.

People jumped on your post because it was more or less indistinguishable from one of the many right wingers who find their way here and the site culture towards that is to be extremely abrasive with mockery. Don't feel to bad about the replies, it has happened to pretty much everyone here and being from a different instance people are going to be extra quick on the assumption that you actually meant it

The culture here is pretty strong and unique so it's probably confusing as shit to outsiders, but is actually quite comfy once you get used to the flow

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well shit, I’ll keep that in mind. Appreciate the response. I’m definitely not a rightoid lol. I used to post on the old Reddit sub before it got banned. Figured this place was more or less the same, but it does seem noticeably different. I’ll try to lurk more before commenting again.

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

apologies for going hard, we just love to dunk and we're having ongoing struggle sessions about how cringe it is/isn't for our whiteboy userbase to post about hating crackers so much

honestly, it's just that users of other instances so often wander in and post unhinged racist or transphobic shit so the "@reddthat.com" probably set everyone off

[–] good_girl@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

Your 'joke' made no sense even in context.

[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

die cracker anti-cracker-aktion qin-shi-huangdi-fireball

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

Literally in Levittown, brother. Did you survive the Great War to End All Wars? Come on down and get a custom built home with a white picket fence for zero down and a pittance a month.

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago

The person that says this and the person that says they wish it was the 50s againsame-picture

[–] timicin@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i think it would strike a stronger chord to mention that the people who lived through it are still alive and some of them are running for president.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Some of them supported it and are president

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

biden-point that's right Jack. I got into politics because of the Civil Rights movement. I wanted to push it backward

[–] goatmeal@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

Strom approved comment

[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Reminder that:

-Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer first aired on 12/6/1964, before integration was made fully federally enforceable by Heart Of Atlanta Motel v. U.S. on 12/14.

-Schools in districts such as Greenville in South Carolina took until 1970 to be de jure desegregated.

-Mississippi senator James Eastland, an open and vocal white supremacist and anti-semite, was in office until 1978.

Former Louisiana KKK leader David Duke won 43.5 percent of the vote in the 1990 Louisiana Senate election.

-A majority of the US population disapproved of interracial marriage until the mid 1990s.

-South Carolina senator Strom Thurmond, who once spent 24 hours straight defending segregation, remained in office until shortly before his death at 100 in 2003.

-In 2004 Alabama, a majority of voters opposed a ballot measure to officially remove unenforceable Jim Crow clauses in the state constitution.

-Segregated proms were still held in rural Georgia up through 2013.

[–] Mickmacduffin@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What happened in the mid 80's to get Americans on board with interracial marriage? Was it somehow the show Cheers?

[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh shit my bad

I meant mid 90s amerikkka-clap

[–] Mickmacduffin@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

Oh ok, so it must hqve been Frasier

[–] goatmeal@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

Grades of US tap water

Restaurant, Bar, Stadium, Filtered soda gun tap.

New luxury condo/apartment tap--fancy hotel tap

Museum, Private School, and University water fountain tap, bottle filler option grade water fountain.

Old residential construction moderate income tap

Chain Hotel/Motel tap

Community College and Public School circular water fountain tap (occasionally dented gummed and disabled)

Gentrifying pioneer rehabbed old construction yellowlined low rent yet centrally located tap

Commercial Restroom Tap

Nestlé Poland Spring filtered contaminated ground water

Redlined old residential lead tap

Prison Tap

[–] darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Why the equal in "separate but equal" was bullshit summed up in a single image