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President Joe Biden has just signed the so-called TikTok ban into law, meaning that the popular social media app’s parent company must now sell the app or face a ban across the US,

The controversial ban of the app was passed by Congress this week, sending the measure to Mr Biden’s desk, who signed the legislation into law on Wednesday.

Despite fears that the Chinese-owned app will suddenly vanish from users’ phones, that is far from the reality of what will likely happen.

When does the ban go into effect?

At the earliest, it would probably take a year before TikTok would be banned.

Under the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, ByteDance, TikTok’s parent company, has nine months to sell the social media app, tacking on an additional three more if a sale is under way.

But if this doesn’t happen, TikTok will be banned from US app stores.

In reality, the app would be no longer accessible in the app stores in the US, meaning it would become more difficult to download the app or receive updates.

TikTok users could probably circumvent the app’s removal from US app stores and access the app through other means, like by using a virtual private network (VPN) or using a foreign SIM card.

“The TikTok bill relies heavily on the control that Apple and Google maintain over their smartphone platforms because the bill’s primary mechanism is to direct Apple and Google to stop allowing the TikTok app on their respective app stores,” Dean Ball, a research fellow with the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, told The Associated Press.

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 115 points 8 months ago (1 children)

nice contrast with expanding surveillance like two days before. being another country without your own social media is basically saying "i like that usa spies on me, they should do more of it"

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 108 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Good. I don't want CHINA spying on me, I want an honest god fearing american company spying on me instead.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 99 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I remember making this joke and we got some lemmy dipshit in here all like 'yes I don't want foreign countries spying on me'

Like what is China gonna do if they learn about whatever weird/illegal things you do?

Versus the country you actually live in learning about the weird/illegal things you do?

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 103 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Literally seen a lot of takes of "I'd rather America decode the algorithm than China use it for propoganda"

puts on They Live glasses

"I'd rather be lied to by america than hear the truth from a foreign goverent"

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 71 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Xi seeing my feet pics geordi-no

Biden seeing my feet pics and sending the cops to kill me geordi-yes

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 45 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He sends them to Kamala and she laughs at them jokermala

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)

and then sends cops to kill you

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 44 points 8 months ago

Xi is going to blackmail me with pictures of my tiny dick I sent to women unsolicited, HE HAS DIRT ON ME

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 65 points 8 months ago

People are saying this unironically on r/news and it's getting upvoted

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 100 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Tik Tok should just refuse to sell and make their landing page a full screen banner saying "this is the top priority of American politicians right now, when was the last time you had to choose between paying rent and buying groceries, election day is November 5th."

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 37 points 8 months ago

Scrap the election day part and replace it with the full text of State And Revolution

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 81 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yea he is losing the election for sure

amerikkkaqin-shi-huangdi-fireball

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 60 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At this point, I feel like that's just part of the game for politicians. Like how much can they get away with before facing consequences.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 56 points 8 months ago

Oh, also, Fucking Biden is a sacrificial lamb for all his fucking handlers. They're not gonna face any consequences long term for him losing, they'll just move on to a new job with all these horrible policies on their CV. That's another way him and Trump aren't so different, it's just a difference in the ideology of monsters they're more likely to acquiesce towards.

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 59 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He saw his polling kinda go up and decided to see what happens.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 65 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Joe Biden, not really wanting to win re-election but also wanting to be able to blame 'naive young people' for his failure:

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 61 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The 2028 election will be decided based on who's going to be more aggressive in making it illegal to be younger than 40.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 77 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

They're out of their minds.

The political cost of banning tiktok is so fucking high. The US relies on its "FREEEEEE SPEEEEECH" propaganda so much but every single member of genz is going to consider that complete and total bullshit if they lose access to the app in a move that has obviously been motivated by Palestine.

We will be laughing about this blunder in years to come as a very significant mistake. The political cost of undermining one of the most important cornerstones of american propaganda is much higher than allowing tiktok to exist. They're treating this the same as the UK banning CGTN or RT but those were easy to do because only a few thousand people watched them to begin with, they had no political cost. The cost of this is one of the flagstones of the american lie with an entire generation.

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[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 67 points 8 months ago (5 children)

so unless tiktok is sold to a US-based company, it will be a bit inconvenient for US users to download the app and keep it updated

is that all? can't these geriatric corporate-owned fucking ghouls understand how toothless this supposed ban is? lmao this is pathetic

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 60 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Just wait for all the bait apps and fake blogs with tiktok APK download links. Who knows, maybe it'll filter out all the tech illiterate reactionaries. en On android it'll be easier to keep your access. On iOS it'll be almost impossible since sideloading apps is pretty hard if I recall. Tiktok should just put the most recent android apk right on their website.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 56 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Make the internet difficult to use again.

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[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 41 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Sideloading is a pain, but I've got this crazy cracked youtube app I use that's so much better than the standard one.

[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 37 points 8 months ago (2 children)

NewPipe? I use it and it rules, way better than the official app

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[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 50 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

This bill's original sponsors are Facebook. And however slight the inconvenience is, users can be very fickle. Even if most users stay with the platform via VPNs it can still hurt the bottom line. This means a victory for Facebook no matter what.

As for Israel, Tiktok is hardly the only place the israelis behave like demons.

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 49 points 8 months ago

If you deleted the edge shortcut from these ghouls desktop they wouldn't be able to access the internet. They think the way you take a screenshot is by finding your intern and telling them to do it. They 100% think this will stop anybody from using tik tok.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 48 points 8 months ago

Actually it likely won't even do that. On Android, it's quite easy to have your app check a server for updates on startup and download an updated APK which the user can then install with one tap. It can require the user to grant the app permission to install updates, but you can easily just tell users how to do this, send them to the right setting, and even make the button they need to press flash so they know what to hit.

You can also make a large number of changes server side so that users don't even have to update the actual app very often.

This would be a lot more of a punishment if it was still 2011, but all this will really do is make it harder for new users to install the app on iOS, where sideloading isn't a thing in the US.

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[–] Bakzik@hexbear.net 66 points 8 months ago
[–] LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 63 points 8 months ago (1 children)

TikTok has said it will fight it in courts. So let's see what happens. I don't expect them to sell, even if they lose. And if they end up getting banned in the US, I wonder what other Western countries do.

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 55 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't surprise me if the anglofascists(ie. Canada, UK and etc) follow the US for banning like they do with almost everything.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 52 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The UK will do it in a heartbeat if the Americans order it. It wasn't that long ago we were trying to ban fucking encryption until the government had months and months of beingntold by literally everyone that it was impossible and that if they found a way it would completely collapse every institution, the banks, and the economy at large.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 36 points 8 months ago

Gotta love a system that allows decrepit boomers who have no idea how the modern world works to run everything

[–] meatballs12345@hexbear.net 59 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act

PAfACAA

Terrible acronym, it's like they weren't even trying.

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[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 58 points 8 months ago

Please just pull the app in the US, kids will start widely using VPNs just to use tiktok, it will be good for society.

[–] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 57 points 8 months ago (9 children)

I love this protest sign:

As if the US Government gives a shit about Americans' quality of life.

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[–] Mokey@hexbear.net 55 points 8 months ago

So wait is biden just making the cool sms app into an even cooler one by banning it?

It kinda just seems like itll teach kids how to skirt the ban, make it more popular with ppl who want to use it and also keep libs and conservatives off it... seems like a win

[–] VernetheJules@hexbear.net 54 points 8 months ago

healthcare pls doomjak

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 52 points 8 months ago

I'm glad we've solved all of society's major problems so that our politicians can spend their time legislating such trivial matters.

[–] Yor@hexbear.net 50 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I will never be convinced democrats actually want to win. No fucking way haha. Be sure to blame this on the leftists too!

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[–] makotech222@hexbear.net 50 points 8 months ago

damn i was wrong on this one. never thought they would sign it. lmao

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 49 points 8 months ago (8 children)

well, this is what it took for me to finally install TikTok on my phone

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Honestly after years of scoffing at Tik Tok I've kinda become addicted to it the last few weeks, there's just SO MANY anti-cop Tik Toks

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

yeah what we discovered from all the probes into tiktok was that tiktok wasnt promoting palestinian content it was legitimately that organically popular and that they had to go out of their way to promote israeli content otherwise it would naturally be drowned out completely

and also there is a pretty big contingent of anarchist and marxist tiktokers and they are pretty popular that they start popping up on the average persons fyp and tiktok doesnt suppress them like other platforms

also we get cool news that literally does not get reported at all. like did you know last week a retired general in the us navy was gunned down by seattle police for trying to convince a single mother to watch him SA her 2 preteen girls? been a week. google it. only results you get is a journalist and photographer who is talking about it on tiktok because he was there after the fact and took the photos and has been following up on it. wonder why his name is never mentioned hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

oh looks like today they finally updated some of the articles with his name. unfun fact, the guy oversaw the medical at guantanamo bay rest in piss fuckwad

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[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 44 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This cold war is making me depressed, everything the USA does is in pursuit of war doomer

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[–] abc@hexbear.net 42 points 8 months ago

it means he will lose literally any and every 18-25 vote he might've gotten lmao BRANDON WHY

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 39 points 8 months ago

He's getting the-doohickey 'd by zoomers I'm calling it

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If the ban depends on app stores, couldn't you just download the apk? Wait does TikTok have an apk you can download?

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[–] nothx@hexbear.net 37 points 8 months ago

I guess we’re just gonna have to TikTokTake ourselves to the polls.

Vote harder than ever!

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