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And we shouldn't allow this concept to go unchallenged here on Lemmy.

Commenting on an active post is not brigading

Posting a link to something is not brigading

Commenting on something you were linked to is not brigading

The only thing that might be brigading, but isn't because it isn't a real thing, is someone explicitly going, "Hey everyone, go here and harass this person"

It's all fine and good that we have some new rules to keep the peace with other instances but we must fight against reddit-logo brainworms

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[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Collective action is invalid, everyone must act as individual monads.

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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Libs are just pissed about having their precious assumptions challenged and being outnumbered by people while it happens

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Brigading is a bullshit Redditism. For everywhere else, they're called raids and raids are a reality of Internet life. Even Twitter has a daily main character where people dogpile on someone with a particularly shitty take. If you don't want to deal with raids, you can always join the winning team.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Libs cry bc we are too good at posting

[–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

There's certainly an attitude of "we should be able to federate with large leftist communities and then spout false right-wing talking points without being challenged >:("

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

The crybullies that whined about "brigading" were quite often the same ones that were enjoyers of "lolcow" tormenting cryptofascist subs like SRD and its more mask-off variant Dr!ma.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

No context Imdb: "A group of friends go to a hotel for a weekend getaway and soon discover that women do bad things here."

[–] Melonius@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I saw so many bad faith trolls saying they'd block this instance. Would love to keep track of them and toss that quote back at them when they're still repeating their shit takes if the feature ever becomes available.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It implies there are outside agitators coming in to disrupt a community.

But like.

The only "rule" for joining a community is to come inside. As soon as they post, they're not outside anymore.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

outside agitators

not coincidentally, a phrase with a long history of anticommunism and reactionary dismissal of working class concerns

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[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

We’re just simply postmogging madeline-smug

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As usual, liberals just use different words when they like some vs. when they don't. When they don't like it? Brigading! When they do? Just raising concerns, I hate those red fash tankies.

PS they are envious of our knack for a self-organized united front.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Their culture is so snarky and anti-collaboration, they get pissy with each other nearly as much as they do with us, and they don't engage any differently in either case. I really do feel bad for these people who are trapped in the atomized, all against all social paradigm of the new internet.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So much of the 'brigading' is just comrades pointing out and challenging racism or bigotry and agreeing that a reactionary is racist or bigoted. I think its this kind of collaboration that comes off as so offensive to them sometimes; it's not something that any of us have to argue about, so it might always come off as co-ordinated to those who are used to saying whatever tf they like without consequence. Must be strange to be challenged when it's acceptable to be a a conservative or a 'progressive' and a POS throughout most of the western world.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What would it be like living in a world where anyone who dared to voice bigotry or misogyny or transphobia was immediately dogpiled by everyone around them? Like someone makes a bigoted comment in the grocery store and everyone around starts yelling at them and calling over the rest of the grocery to yell at them? Sure, witchhunts, whatever but god it would be nice living a world where if you encountered a bigot or a fascist or a cop everyone would pile in to help you without having to be asked or having to think about it.

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[–] charlie@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

they get pissy with each other nearly as much as they do with us, and they don't engage any differently in either case

I'm still new to Hexbear and this has been the biggest striking difference for me coming from liberal spaces. I've seen multiple arguments on hexbear, and honestly, I had a hard time at first seeing that they were civil disagreements and not just jokes.

Edit: I think maybe because in the liberal spaces, to open up like that in good faith is just an invitation to get shit on for going outside the norm. Whereas here you'll get engaged with in good faith and it's just a much more positive experience that actually allows for civil disagreement.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Here you can generally assume people will engage with intellectual honesty and intellectual curiosity, not just to "win" an argument but to have a real exchange of ideas that results in potentially both people benefiting. Everything isn't a debate and every conversation does not have a winner and a loser, the goal everyone has here is generally for everyone to be better off.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Goofy emojis help, as does the anti-debatelord logout culture

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[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think there's probably a good argument for not going easy on liberalism, ever, because if the roles were reversed they would not give us any room to grow and they would not hesitate. I think there's probably a fine line between showing no mercy and coming across as toxic and giving them an excuse to defederate so no idea what the right call is tbh shrug-outta-hecks

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror."

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[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

i press all i press active yep it's brigading time fidel-cool

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no more half measures walter

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