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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

Dumb guy's idea of a smart guy stocks are proliferating.

"I haven't read a book since my high school teachers made me read The Giving Tree and a bunch of anti-communist shlock in 9th grade, nor have I matured as a person or learned anything that would cause me to have an internal process, so I'm going to tell billionaires that the most banal vision of 80s cyberpunk corporate feudalism is cool and good and they're going to hail me as a genius for making fascism and company towns sound " disruptive".

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If you've ever met anyone that works for Google, you will know that none of these tech people are 'ok'.

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I know someone who does and he’s not that bad besides thinking he knows everything because he spends his time reading Wikipedia articles, and thinks unions are bad, any statistic that supports the USSR is a lie, and anything can be fixed with neoliberal “incentives.”

[–] spacecadet@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

Nothing worse than the delusional self confidence of a well paid STEMlord

[–] featured@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

I have a friend there who is pretty progressive but his whole take on working there is just get the bag then go somewhere less evil

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

The book outlines a plan for tech plutocrats to exit democracy and establish new sovereign territories.

I have an idea. They should establish a sovereign territory at the bottom of the ocean

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I get tired of people trying to call what's happening and going to happen as "tech feudalism" or some new kind of "feudalism." Its just capitalism. Stop making up things to blame instead of the the hegemonic global system by which all things are produced and allocated.

Libs are going to keep doing variations of "no its crony capitalism" until the sky catches fire

[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The reason people use terms like tech feudalism is not to escape blaming capitalism, but to highlight the way capitalist systems are creating social structures akin to the common perception of feudalism.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

That makes sense, but i think there's bleed over to libs using it as "capitalism was great, but now its tech feudalism." The same way they used corporatism and crony capitalism to act like its a deviation from their platonic ideal of capitalism that they're sure totally existed once but not now

[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There will be bleed over with any term into liberals making excuses for capitalism. They manage to do it even with terms like intersectionality. I don't think that fact precludes the usefulness of of the tech capitalists desire to create a dependent working class in a closed and controlled system.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's fair. I don't think it necessarily precludes it from being useful. Its just something I've heard libs throwing around and was annoyed by, so im just kind of venting

That, too, is fair

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

I still think “techno feudalism” is a misleading term that is a great tool for revisionists and liberals.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

I find it's useful for getting people to seriously think about how, for instance, health care is used to enserf people, tie them to a company they cannot leave regardless of their treatment. People often think of themselves as free, as choosing their employment and their "career". Serfs, though, don't choose. Getting people to think in those terms can be useful.

[–] whatup@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

Balaji, a 43-year-old Long Island native

Never met a Long Islander who wasn’t a racist removed. The last one I talked to liked to hurl slurs at homeless people before speeding away in his car.

[–] whatup@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

I’m surprised the feds haven’t gone after this loser. Threats of secession/blatantly overthrowing the US government is the one thing a super rich person can get into serious trouble over.