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It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

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i was trying to be tactful, respectful, and understanding by posting this thread for ppl to ask questions abt our beautiful hexbear. i didnt get any questions.

it took 4 hours for Ada, their admin, to respond. she locked the thread shortly after responding her reply above was disheartening, as she seemed willing to work with us previously. equating ableism to a dunk tank post is just vile. and claiming the transphobia in 196 is “a specific event that occurred around a month ago” proves she didnt read any of our concerns. i didnt know abt that event, im sure most of us here dont. our concerns are rooted in the chasers of 196 (non-trans ppl who fetishize trans ppl). someone replied to her saying we were “concern-trolling”. is it that unbelievable that we care abt not having bigotry in the same space as us. i want to grab some of these users by the shoulders, shake them, and yell, “WE ARE BEING GENUINE. WE ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT PROVIDING A SAFE, SUPPORTIVE SPACE FOR ALL PEOPLE, AND YOUR COMMUNITY IS ALIENATING TRANS AND DISABLED PEOPLE!!”

responses were not very positive of us

they think this is a bit! lol, lmao even! this whole thing has me jokerfication

this chain of comments particularly upset me “its a troll”. my pronouns are right next to my name, and “it” isnt one of them (even tho thats 100% a valid pronoun to prefer)

this one had me fully jokerfied

and the cherry on top warranted its own post https://hexbear.net/post/373453

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[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the point about the chaser shit was that a mod was defending it - and we know for certain chasers have made a home there because @HornyOnMain@hexbear.net got DMs from one / dogpiled for suggesting chaser shit is transphobic.

purge your fucking chasers and purge 196 you fucking cowards

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

no more half measures walter

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, if they can't even respect your pronouns then it's clear now that Blahaj.zone is a transphobic instance. Their projection seems to stem from their inability to keep their own trans and other marginalized groups safe from attack.

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Y'know, blahaj really isn't doing shit to convince me it's not just a cesspit comprised near-entirely of the gold star/three no's gay community, especially not with their Vaush infection; and that's enough to make me want them defederated

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

gold star/three no's gay community

wait, what is this?

[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Gold star lesbians ostracise other lesbians who've been with men before; want people to believe they just came out of the womb lesbian. Three no's, which i have more familiarity with, are the gays who have "No Blacks, no fats, no fems" either at the top or bottom of their grindr profiles. Usually white, moneyed up twinks, though before I pitched out my own profiles and became a bitter queer hermit, I was seeing that mindset metastasize to non-whites.

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

oof. yeah a lot of blahaj seem to embody that. but there are some of them who dont. those users should make accts here, but ive already said my piece to them

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

to be more specific, gold star is a TERF thing and it's meant to exclude lesbians who have sex with trans women. it's extremely gross.

[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Holy shit, it gets worse! So the one 'gold star' I had the immense displeasure and misfortune of knowing either didn't know what she was talking about, or had a whole lot worse personality traits that would have seen her clipped from the circle anywho. Lovely.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

not everyone knows about it. my partner was calling a couple of zoomer trans kids that are staying with us gold stars without knowledge of how shitty it is (for context, we're both trans).

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[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

“do what i say, not what i do”

funny-clown-hammer being a clown as always. never trust a leftist who uses or defends the use of slurs

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like such a fogey. I'm assuming Vaush is some sort of internet personality? I get search hits for a YouTuber.

[–] ShareThatBread@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From memory he’s a pedo.

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

yea

pedo, chaser, racist, imperialism apologist. i could go on

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

yeah, youtuber - "anarcho-Bidenist" with an extremely toxic fanbase and infamous for being a pedo, a chaser, and racist. straight up defends saying the n-word. we normally don't allow discussion of his stuff because giving him attention or brain space is a mistake but it's relevant in the context of the 196 community

[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

straight up defends saying the n-word.

Also chased a Black youtuber(Professor Flowers) off the platform by slandering her as a genocide apologist, and utterly refuses to differentiate between white nationalism, regressive Black nationalism(the kind of horseshit that say, the Black Hebrew Israelites peddle), and actually revolutionary Black nationalism.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She still makes videos, but yeah that's probably one of the worst things he's done besides threaten to r*pe someone.

I feel so bad for her, not only did she have to deal with all the debatebro fuckery, but apparently she also keeps getting shit from other POC or just other leftists being shitheads in general

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think he also did actual sex pest stuff, but that was under his other name before he rebranded to escape the accusations.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

from my understanding it was all online no? Not that it makes redeemable, but I don't think he's actually physically harassed anyone in person from what we know (wouldn't put it past him of course)

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I thought the incident that made him rebrand was in real life, but I might be confusing him for someone else.

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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Eesh. It's so bizarre to me the online personalities, that people will then claim to be followers of, and even attach a cutesy name to. It's like saying, "Yeah, I'm Savillain. Yeah, I'm a Cosbologist."

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's the commoditization of identity - corporate brands wanted people to identify with them so there was a mass push towards that, especially with advertising. with social media, "influencers" began capitalizing on parasocial relationships with their fandom as well as cultivating brand identity. the post-structuralist critiques are fairly interesting on this front.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just wanna go back to when it took reasonable technical investment to platform on the internet. I had such high hopes for accessibility.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

capitalism, baybee. takes unmitigated goods and turns them into ash in our mouths.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never trust a leftist who doesn't drop a few slurs per day.

freeze-gamer is one of the slurs that I accept and it applies here.

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Never trust a leftist who doesn't drop a few slurs per day.

Cracker isn't a slur.

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone is a self-described Vaushite, lmao. Very funny

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

They don't condone the kiddie creeping chaser but they are fans of the kiddie creeping chaser morshupls

[–] Tastysnack@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I don't understand how they can type that slop and think it doesn't just come across as cognitive dissonance.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

To be fair, as neither a local member or one of a blahaj, the post did read a little... off, for a lack of a better word. I didn't feel like it was made in bad faith, but it felt a little faux pas.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

I wanted one of our admins or theirs to make it for exactly that reason. but the response is nonetheless funny.

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

i guess it would have been better coming from an admin, but it wasnt an announcement post, just an invitation to ask us questions abt hexbear

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

plays EVE online

Huge fucking red flag if there ever was one

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