Firefox stays winning.
Whatever happened to Netscape?
this post was submitted on 11 May 2024
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It became Firefox
Neat
It is literally firefox
And here I thought I couldn't love Firefox even more
Netscape was the sacrifice for Firefox. In the before times, there was the problem of slow and bloated browsers before memory was plentiful (and easy to download😉) so Mozilla created Phoenix which was a lightweight no frills browser that crashed every time I tried to open a jpeg with it, but other than that it was awesome and so much faster than IE or Netscape. Then due to a lawsuit, or threat of one, they changed the name to Firefox which stayed winning until about 3.5 when Chrome started really taking over in speed and abilities. :abe-simpson:
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Firefox ftw.
but you're missing Gamer Chrome (OperaGX), which is very sad
Using firefox is praxis
Firefox gang
I've been using "Not Chrome" for 20 years and I'm not changing anytime soon. Always has been reliable for me. Though I wish they didn't change their icon.
Firefox is best unless you have 224,538 tabs open. Or so I've heard.
I checked yesterday and my extensions were also taking up 1.3 GB of ram. I think one has a memory leak or some shit but idk which. Firefox just takes forever to launch for me and after a couple days of running it goes to a crawl.
E: thanks everyone for trying to help me btw E2: I might be an idiot. I think it might have been the amazing 2 GB of cached data I just deleted.
As someone with literally 1.5 thousand open tabs - Firefox is way better than Chrome. Launches in ~10 seconds. Both use insane memory honestly, a few gigs, but that's modern internet for you.
We expect better tab hygiene than that in the worker's commune, comrade.
In the revolution, just as every comrade plays a part in the march towards a brighter future, so too do my 1,500 tabs form a robust vanguard of knowledge and productivity.. probably.
I mean hey at least like 20% of them I need and will one day get to.
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I don't know what you mean, I have more tabs than that open and they unload if I haven't opened them in awhile. memory usage doesn't scale with number of tabs. I think your extensions are bugged.
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When I transitioned to Firefox from Chrome, I did so in large part because it at least was better at managing 224,538 open tabs. At the very least at the time, it seems that Chrome held all of the information about the tabs in RAM.
Firefox is the best, but I noticed Edge is more snappy at loading pages. Especially if its a page with a lot of images. But Edge is for libs, so I don't use it.
The conspiratorial side of me wants to believe that websites are coded to perform poorly when a non-Chrome browser is using them, in order to get people to switch to Chrome or Edge or whatever. Like the site detects the User Agent as "Firefox" and lowers its download speed.
websites are coded to perform poorly when a non-Chrome browser is using them
many of them basically are, but not intentionally. a lot of web developers only test in Chrome, and Chrome does some really weird shit (especially with JS and CSS) that means if you target Chrome you’re passively degrading the experience for not-Chrome.
I personally develop my code targeting Firefox or Safari most of the time, since both work a lot closer to spec with JS and CSS than Chrome does.
There's circumstantial evidence that most of google's sites degrade performance intentionally.
And plenty of sites try to stop you with a "only works on chrome" message, but work perfectly fine if you just spoof your browser string to look like you're using chrome.
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You can go to about:profiles and then relaunch the web browser with all add ons disabled to see if that changes things up for you. Though I imagine browsing the web without uBlock Origin on is its own special hell.
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How did this happen? Didn’t different browsers used to be, like, different?
10-15 years ago cross-browser javascript and rendering compatibility was a nightmare for web developers and chromium was free, popular/winning, and legitimately very good so it made sense to standardize on it rather than independently develop inferior engines
but now that it monopolizes internet browsing of course it has started to bloat and suck. let a hundred browser engines bloom
also i would argue that not enough was done to oppose scope creep in web standards. i don't agree that your web browser should be a platform for complicated applications that do more than deliver content and receive posts. even flash was a bridge too far.
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also we didn't quite know google was evil yet
They said they weren't evil! Who were we to know they'd lie about it, what are they, the Chinese?? This is just like communism
I channeled a redditor for this comment
make sure you perform a thorough banishing to get that spirit out of your head
don't worry I just thought too many thoughts about how china stay winning and it fled in a seething rage
the power of socialism with chinese characteristics knows no bounds
When did Opera become "chinese"?
Here's a quote from the Wikipedia page:
In 2016, Opera was acquired by an investment group led by a Chinese consortium, the consortium included several Chinese companies such as Kunlun Tech and Qihoo 360.
Android Not Chrome would always make my entire phone freeze, apparently many people have that issue. I haven't had that problem with Android Chinese Chrome so far.
But Not Chrome is still the best by far on computer of course.
I love Android Not Chrome. You can install uBlock Origin on it, which kicks ass
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I had times where the android Not Chrome would freeze on my phone. I turned off an extension that adds a panel for more buttons and the freezes disappeared. Idk if this will be relevant to your problem since it's your whole phone that froze but maybe you're using some problematic extensions or you may have had some settings that caused it.
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if you have to use a chrome, crypto chrome has very good ad and tracker blocking built in at least. you can turn off the crypto nonsense
The maker of brave is a homophobe though, so I wouldn't suggest it
That would also rule out javascript can't use anything anymore 😭
You forgot one option: Librewolf - better firefox
Meh, it's just Firefox with a config applied out of the box and some new branding. They don't really patch anything of importance out of Firefox, pretty much all of their patches are just changes for their branding/styling.
You can find the config that comes out of the box here: https://codeberg.org/librewolf/settings/src/branch/master/librewolf.cfg which appears to just be https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/blob/master/user.js with a couple of extra things added like Brave's query stripping list.
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Not in the slightest. I actually use Safari over Chrome, that’s how sick I am of it.
Safari is Apple Chrome.
Would be funny if it was, but it is a different engine than both chrome and firefox.
no more half measures walter
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