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[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 75 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My head canon is someone in the tech industry hates computers and is purposefully self sabotaging to get us off of them

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think it is more boring and stupid. The tech industry has engineers and scientists who builds stuff but the executive controlling it, the public using it and politicians regulating it insists to believe that a magic genie lives inside the computer.

Sometimes the genie is benevolent and can fix the economy, answer all your questions with absolute certainty, fix every social problem and rid you of the burden of having to enploy people to do stuff. Other times the genie is evil and he will tell the evil SeeSeePee everything about you and let Russia decide the outcome of the election.

But in any case the computer is magic and has unlimited abilities.

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah I think that’s the case in reality but it’s funny to imagine some guy sitting in Google going “e-NOUGH!”

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 48 points 5 months ago

These are great keep them coming

AI is the new cybertruck

[–] P1d40n3@hexbear.net 46 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Software engineering is rapidly becoming a net negative for us all.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

That's because most "software engineers" aren't actually engineers. They're more systems designers and analysts with a bit of programming knowledge and a little bit of a computer science background. Being a real engineer is very different.

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Computer science isn't science and software engineers aren't engineers.

[–] aqwxcvbnji@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Computer science isn't science

Why not?

[–] facow@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Because for the most part it's approached completely unscientifically - especially in the corporate setting.

What code is "cleaner and more maintainable?" All ~vibes~.

How should we write tests to ensure they're robust and covering all expected functionality? Who cares just get the tool to 90% coverage and ship it.

A carpenter isn't a wood scientist

[–] macerated_baby_presidents@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

That's not "computer science", you're talking about programming or software engineering, which are workers building what computer scientists have figured out. There are very few computer scientists. They are basically specialized mathematicians. Think Dijkstra. Google has most of them chained up in a basement somewhere writing sharding algorithms or something. It's confusing because many programmers get CS undergrad degrees, but they are starting to make "software engineering" degrees.

It's true that CS doesn't use the scientific method, but neither do library science, "scientific socialism", etc. Popper isn't the be-all end-all.

[–] facow@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough I had been considering deleting/rewriting my comment for a similar reason. Point still stands if you replace CS for SWE

[–] macerated_baby_presidents@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

yeah SWE is not science, we're not discovering anything we're just building

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

They don't use the scientific method, and they generally don't publish research or collect data.

[–] AdmiralDoohickey@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 months ago

It's math. You don't really use the scientific method

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure you could word things similarly for every field that's around. I've yet to find a proper explanation for "software development is not engineering"

[–] CyberSyndicalist@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

engineering is when you are tangentially related to someone wearing a hard hat

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 5 months ago

Don't forget the sweaty muscular men!

[–] macerated_baby_presidents@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think this is not true. When interviewed, people who have crossed over from ChemE/MechE/etc say it's engineering. We just iterate a lot faster because compiling is cheap and most software failures are cheap.

I think we rely too much on stereotypical ideas of what "real engineers" are doing, which can't be defined and generally don't stand up to scrutiny. For instance, is designing a processor in VHDL computer engineering or merely programming?

[–] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 months ago

In this case I'm pretty sure it's some C level clown that pushed this through even if everyone told them "it's not ready" or "you need a larger model for this to work".

The people on the floor rarely get heard, they only get the blame.

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

monke-return

Death to America

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fuck what is that from, I swear I remember seeing that shitpost before. Is it a bit from an old cracked article or something?

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

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[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can we have some ai generated Beetles sing this? I want to psyche my parents with this horror.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You don't need to wait cause the AI thing was based on an old shit post with video

https://youtu.be/LwCL3HahgS8?si=VCTeLB-JKo8e5YCv

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

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[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

Imagine a world in which we don't need musicians. You simply say, "Computer. Write me a song by Beethoven about leaving a dog in a hot car". The ultra-advanced AI will understand every nuance of what you mean. In mere seconds you'll have a fully customisable song from ANYONE about leaving a dog in a hot car. Want to insert a "happy birthday mom" message? Want to make it about YOU leaving the dog in the hot car? The possibilities are endless because we've democratised art.

[–] flan@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

google isnt giving me ai results so i cant join in the fun

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I just haven't used google in years tbh

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What do you use for search? It seems like all the surviving search enginers are front-ends for google and the one that isn't is... it's bad. It's real bad.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

I use searx

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[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

if you leave a dog in a hot car it will get cooked...

but if you leave a hot dog in a car, will it get cooked too?

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

idk, but here used to be cooking griddles you could attach to the engine of your car (well, trucks, really) and you'd put whatever in there with some water and it'd steam or cook your food while you drove. Like, put your hotdogs in, drive for an hour, check your hotdogs. Mostly for over the road truckers and road trips.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm mostly wondering if you could cook beef (150°F) in a car-based solar oven.

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[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you can hear the song here 🙄

(generative "AI" and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race)

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s not just wrong, it’s incredibly creative in the process of being wrong. Like someone asks you for a cookie recipe and you design a novel stapler that doesn’t work, it staples up instead of down

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

a stapler that ignores the paper but stabs the hand holding the handle

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago

I'm really excited for the day when people realize this fad was stupid as fuck.

[–] JuanGLADIO@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

Google's Bard is the McKinsey AI