(how did this initiative not appear here already)

The students of Russian State University for the Humanities, joined by students of other universities, CPRF members (both regular people and deputies), historians and more, are agitating for renaming the Ivan Ilyin Higher Political School on the basis of Ilyin being a fascist.

Ilyin has been promoted as a "great Russian philosopher" by the state media, and is being defended by that same media, and Dugin, a well-known person with similar views and the director of the Ilyin School.

The poster is taken from the initiative's Telegram channel, it reads "Comrades, a replacement! [we] Will not give Ilyich in exchange for Ilyin!"

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[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

wow that actually looks like a 20's-30's bolshevik poster goddamn that's cool

[-] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

A gorgeous poster, thank you for sharing this

edit: the longer I look at this the more that dark caricatures nose looks vaguely antisemitic, I have no idea why theyd draw him that that

[-] imikoy@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

I think it's unfortunate, but I will give the benefit of the doubt. If more such posters come out with such nose, I'll be suspicious.

The figure looks like it is inspired by vampires, perhaps it was taken from some vampire?

[-] imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

i think its referencing an element of our folklore, кощей бессмертный.

[-] imikoy@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

Totally forgot about him!

For other people - Koshchei is a folklore villain, who's similar to liches.

[-] imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago

also not dissimilar to ilyin.

[-] Guamer@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I too wish Giant Lenin would review my pant seams.

[-] imikoy@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

This seam was analyzed by profesional Communist Party seam analyzers

HIDDEN blue-check

[-] Droplet@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Thanks for posting this. I have been following the development since last month when it started, and writing a summary for the news mega but I want to wait a bit longer for anything substantive to happen first.

So far, the students have demonstrated to be unwavered by any challenge from the authorities. The movement has since grown larger and has now spread to over 80 universities across Russia. There is also a rumor that the rector will be replaced but nothing substantial has happened yet.

Dugin said he’s only willing to respond if the students had “passed the Ilyin test”, to which the students responded they are “totally prepared” and not afraid to argue on the opponent’s grounds.

Volodin said “don’t bring politics into school” lol and the RSUH admins pretended like they never received the formal complaints from the students. All these show that they simply have no arguments against the student protestors, and only going with “this is not the time to be divisive. Ilyin was a Russian patriot.” Which makes even less sense considering Ilyin’s connections with actual Nazis that have been much too extensively documented to be dismissed out of hand.

There was a debate a couple weeks back between the Initiative and the conservatives and it became clear that the latter simply do not have a firm ground to stand on.

I think with the war with Ukraine ongoing, and the anti-fascist stance that the Russian authorities have decided to take on against NATO, there is very little hope for fascism to thrive in Russia. The brand of Ilyin is far too tainted to be salvaged, while the ongoing war constantly reminds the people of the sacrifice made by the Soviet people who fought against the very fascists they are now facing today.

This could be an optimistic take (which is rare for me considering that browsing Russian telegram turns you into a doomer almost instantly), but they cannot afford to alienate their own students, their own people, with all the anti-fascist rhetoric going on in the country. The likes of Dugin and Ilyin simply do not have the space to survive in a society increasingly shaped by the Nazi’s relentless aggression (I’ve seen on internet even young people who usually don’t comment anything about politics got agitated during the Moscow concert hall shooting). The authorities will try, but that will only deepen the contradictions. Something has to give at some point.

I heard someone said that “Dugin could be the best thing to happen to Russia’s left”, and with some luck, that might turn out to be true.

[-] imikoy@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

anti-fascist stance that the Russian authorities have decided to take on

Looking at the state-owned media and movies - I think the stance is much more reactionary, both the real one and what's being televised. Ilyin is used as a "great philosopher and a patriot and we should model the society after his writings" - this is part of propagated ideas, and "we are against fascists" is another part.

They probably can give up Ilyin and continue with these ideas anyway though. But they might choose not to.

[-] Droplet@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes I agree with you, the state is 100% reactionary. But it is now at war with foreign powers, under unprecedented sanctions and can only depend on its own people to overcome it. The Russian people has more leverage than ever, unlike in Western countries which have been so thoroughly financialized that the workers no longer hold any meaningful leverage against the capitalist class.

[-] imikoy@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I agree. I hope for the success of the initiative in agitating people. Before, I honestly didn't think that there would be something strong enough to push people to be active.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Just one letter from basedness.

[-] imikoy@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

I am experiencing blob-no-thoughts can you point it out pls

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The small letters at the end are ch/n - difference between Ilyich and Ilyin. Right now it's Ilyin school so they need to change only that one letter to be based.

[-] imikoy@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, thank you!

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

"Ah yes, nice shoes."


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