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[–] Yllych@hexbear.net 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe the radioactivity of the water is overblown, but this feels like "I will publicly smoke one cigarette to prove lung cancer is overblown"

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its probably overblown, but it's crazy to pretend this isn't a case of leaders going "we can handle an extra x cases of cancer per million in order to save $100"

[–] Yllych@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I saw some people on here saying that the half life of tritium is such that if it were contained for 50 years then the radioactivity would be much less.

not necessarily an easy task, but I refuse to believe humanity is incapable of doing it. If the Japanese government made serious moves towards that kind of solution I think you'd see a lot less animosity coming from their neighbouring countries.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://hexbear.net/comment/3812997 apparently they forgot to take something into account and there's actually little to no difference

[–] Yllych@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Ok I was wrong, the water thing is definitely way overblown

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

Literally was going to post about that.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First time as a farce, second time as an even more farcical farce.

[–] MorelaakIsBack@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

in hell, there is a room. it is reserved for barack, and now rahm. they will be served flint tap water and fukushima sashimi for every meal, with predictable results

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

As it should be.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well yeah, it's not like he has to worry about developing cancer in a few decades or his children having birth defects.

[–] salton@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

I'd have different feelings if they decided to eat exclusively contaminated fish and flint tap water for a decade or two.

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Christ this piece of slime is Ambassador to Japan? I wondered what sinecure he had been shunted off to

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

My reaction too. These monsters can never just do the right thing and [redact] themselves.

[–] impiri@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This makes sense. Any Fallout player knows that ghouls are healed by radiation

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So do we get to see the fisherman catch the fish take it to the restaurant, see the chef prepare it and the waiter take it to him?

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

At this point the fish might just walk up to his plate.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wait, this isn't The Onion?

Can't wait for him to turn into Godzilla

[–] Judge_Juche@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People's reaction to dumping the water is way overblown, like Japan acutally did a pretty good job treating the water and all that is left in it is Tritium, which US and Canadian plants will routinely dump into rivers.

Personally I think some of the reaction in Asia is becuase there hasen't been a reason for everyone to get mad at Japan in a while. Like no high profile denials of WWII crimes or the PM talking about resurrecting the Imperial Navy and reforming the Co-prosperity Sphere. But dumping the water has gotten people across Asia out into the streets denouncing Japan again, and you love to see people enjoying themselves.

[–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think "US and Canada do it" is a very effective argument for something being safe or reasonable. The reality is - We don't know what the effects are, and we can't even be completely sure they're doing what they say they are in the first place. The radioactivity may be low, but the presence of manmade tritium may well cause issues we don't even realise, and as always we're playing a gamble that "this number low so it's probably safe maybe". And that is undeniably a gamble, even if a low-risk one.

[–] Budwig_v_1337hoven@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

tbf, eating it now is safer than it will be for a while

like, give those little bone melters a few years to move through the food-chain before you proudly eat the spicy tuna

[–] mechwarrior2@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

It's radioactive, man!

[–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is so upsettingly uncannily a Simpsons bit - Rich guy eats fish contaminated by radioactive nuclear plant waste water discharged into natural sources to prove it's safe?

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the release actually is safe, but it might not be, so I encourage Rahm to go through with this.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

It's probably safer to do it sooner than later since bio-accumulation/amplification will likely take a few years to reach serious levels.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago
[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The anti-environmental protestors keep saying that if the waste is safe, why don't people eat it. And now that people are eating it, it's just a devil's milkshake. Should I pull out the Parenti quote?

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

MFW a good amount of people actually like living in garbage.

Pigs get together to laugh about how disgusting our species is, and anyone who follows an Abrahamic religion owes pigs a huge apology.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] GenXen@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago
[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

lmao I called this last night.

I would do it. Tritium is a low energy decay, and the amount of decays here is quite small.

For example, there is roughly 0.0169 g of potassium-40 present in a typical human body, decaying at a rate of approximately 4,430 decays per second.

The tritium in the water in question is currently at 60 decays per second.

Also when potassium-40 decays it releases about 100x the energy as a tritium decay. (~1.4 compared to ~0.018 MeV)

sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becquerel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium-40 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know what any of this means but yeah! What this guy said!

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Fishman, fishman, does whatever a fish can

Can he swim? No he can't, he's just got malignant tumors

Watch out! Here comes the fiiiishmaaaaan!

[–] xXthrowawayXx@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago