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[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 41 points 4 months ago

I fucking hate kulaks

[-] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I found this local news article with details about the fire and the dispute.

Regarding the dispute:

The City of Buffalo and building owner Darryl Carr have been embattled in a heated eminent domain dispute since the Common Council initiated proceedings in September 2022.

Darryl Carr has owned the pair of Cobblestone Buildings for over 16 years, and since his ownership the property has has numerous building code violations and appeared in housing court repeatedly.

Carr has sought demolition permits to tear down the buildings several times, and was even awarded one in early 2023 before the city's eminent domain proceeding hit the court docket.

However, once the city moved forward with the eminent domain in May 2023, nothing could be done to the building until the proceeding played out in the courtroom.

Fillmore District councilmember Mitch Nowakowski led the effort for the eminent domain and lobbied hard to save the buildings.

Carr says he plans to build a 55-story tower consisting of apartments, condo's and retail space at the site.

Both Carr and Councilman Nowkowski were on scene after the fire ignited Tuesday night.

According to Carr, the two had a heated exchange.

"Heated" 😂 what an ass

"He's the cause of this, really, if you think about it," Carr said. "I'm saying it's his fault, because it is, because if he supported me, these buildings would have been down years ago, and this never would have happened."

this dude should do standup, he's hilarious

Councilman Nowakowski said it's too early to know the direct cause of the fire, but did allude to Carr's upkeep of the properties as a major problem.

"This is a shame that we allow landlords to do this in the City of Buffalo, that we allow the delay of courts for over a decade to allow this to happen," Nowkowski said.

During all of the legal proceedings over the years, Carr has maintained that the building was beyond preservation.

"There was no saving anything in there," Carr said. "My demo contractors would tell me the same thing."

The guys you hired to give you a price on destroying it said it was a good idea to destroy it? That's really surprising!

🤦

Councilmember Nowakowski said that a ruling in the eminent domain proceeding was expected this week or next.

But if the building requires an emergency demolition, the eminent domain proceeding could be rendered pointless. It is possible the judge in the matter rules the city should still take over the property, even without a building to save.

Fingers crossed for that even more hilarious outcome!

[-] context@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago

"He's the cause of this, really, if you think about it," Carr said. "I'm saying it's his fault, because it is, because if he supported me, these buildings would have been down years ago, and this never would have happened."

damn, directly blaming someone for this publicly to a reporter while the building is still being put out feels like

capitalist-laugh pretty sure i'm going to get away with arson and insurance fraud, i'm high on adrenaline and who knows what else, fuck it! that guy did it!

[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

Holy shit, we already had a Darryl Carr emoji?!?!!!

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago

Fire rips through two of Buffalo's oldest buildings in the Cobblestone District

Crews responded to a two-alarm fire in the Cobblestone District Tuesday night. The buildings are at the center of a eminent domain battle between the owner and city.

Author: Nate Benson (WGRZ), Tyler Pacos Published: 8:26 PM EDT June 18, 2024 Updated: 6:27 AM EDT June 19, 2024

BUFFALO, N.Y. — Buffalo Fire Crews were called to 110 and 118 South Park Ave Tuesday night just in the heart of the Cobblestone District.

When 2 On Your Side arrived on scene, flames were shooting from the rooftop and several windows of the buildings.

The two buildings are some of the oldest in the City of Buffalo, dating back to the 1852 and 1869 respectively.

Buffalo Fire Commissioner William Renaldo said the fire started on the first floor of the building.

"We have anywhere from 50 to 60 firefighters on location right now and over 20 pieces of apparatus," Commissioner Renaldo said.

One of the main concerns for Buffalo Fire is the structural integrity of the building. 2 On Your Side inspected public code enforcement violation records for the property, owned by Darryl Carr. The most recent data says that the building was cited 9 times in 2020, particularly for structural issues and a partially collapsed exterior wall.

"We have to maintain our standoff distance because a couple of walls are compromised," Renaldo said. "We have bricks falling, things of that nature."

The firefighters that responded to the Cobblestone District Tuesday night are the same crews that battled the blaze at The Pink on Allen St. Monday morning.

Commissioner Renaldo said a rest plan is in place for those firefighters that worked both major fires.

In terms of a cause, the Commissioner said it is way too early to know what sparked the Cobblestone District fire.

"We can't gain access to the building yet," Renaldo said. "Fire started on the first floor, spreading all four floors at this time and [we're] having a hard time getting access to all all the parts of the building we want to."

As of 1AM, Tuesday, an emergency demolition hadn't been determined because crews were still gaining control of the fire, but Commissioner Renaldo didn't seem hopeful the building could be saved.

"Some of the walls have been compromised, so it doesn't look good at this point," Renaldo said.

Heavy machinery from Grand Island was brought in overnight to assist Buffalo Fire crews with gaining access to the building. Commissioner Renaldo said the equipment has a 60-foot arm that is capable of breaching the walls of the brick building.

The Eminent Domain Issue

The City of Buffalo and building owner Darryl Carr have been embattled in a heated eminent domain dispute since the Common Council initiated proceedings in September 2022.

Darryl Carr has owned the pair of Cobblestone Buildings for over 16 years, and since his ownership the property has has numerous building code violations and appeared in housing court repeatedly.

Carr has sought demolition permits to tear down the buildings several times, and was even awarded one in early 2023 before the city's eminent domain proceeding hit the court docket.

However, once the city moved forward with the eminent domain in May 2023, nothing could be done to the building until the proceeding played out in the courtroom.

Fillmore District councilmember Mitch Nowakowski led the effort for the eminent domain and lobbied hard to save the buildings.

Carr says he plans to build a 55-story tower consisting of apartments, condo's and retail space at the site.

Both Carr and Councilman Nowkowski were on scene after the fire ignited Tuesday night.

According to Carr, the two had a heated exchange.

"He's the cause of this, really, if you think about it," Carr said. "I'm saying it's his fault, because it is, because if he supported me, these buildings would have been down years ago, and this never would have happened."

Councilman Nowakowski said it's too early to know the direct cause of the fire, but did allude to Carr's upkeep of the properties as a major problem.

"This is a shame that we allow landlords to do this in the City of Buffalo, that we allow the delay of courts for over a decade to allow this to happen," Nowkowski said.

During all of the legal proceedings over the years, Carr has maintained that the building was beyond preservation.

"There was no saving anything in there," Carr said. "My demo contractors would tell me the same thing."

Councilmember Nowakowski said that a ruling in the eminent domain proceeding was expected this week or next.

But if the building requires an emergency demolition, the eminent domain proceeding could be rendered pointless. It is possible the judge in the matter rules the city should still take over the property, even without a building to save.

Buffalo Fire and the City of Buffalo said there would be more updates Wednesday morning.

[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago
[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago

I have multiple layers of ad and tracker blocking including ublock on my browser. I just used Firefox reader to get past these when theres not a 'I'll do it next time' link to close it. Or I'll use the ublock zap tool

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

Why did the city eminent domain the buildings? To keep them from being torn down? Or is there a project they were planning?

[-] context@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

Why did the city eminent domain the buildings? To keep them from being torn down?

yes

https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/buffalo-cobblestone-district-eminent-domain-case-appellate-ruling/71-2918c9fb-859b-4284-8537-bab0961f8b69

March 16, 2024

BUFFALO, N.Y. — An appellate court has ruled in favor of the City of Buffalo in an eminent domain case.

Mayor Byron Brown's administration said it began the process on 110 and 118 South Park Avenue to protect the property from being torn down.

Now the city is awaiting a decision from an Erie County judge on whether the current owner has the right to demolish the buildings.

"The Brown Administration commenced an eminent domain proceeding to acquire 110-118 South Park to protect the property from further blight, deterioration and to enable redevelopment," the city said.

[-] Ageroth@reddthat.com 14 points 4 months ago

The two buildings are some of the oldest in the City of Buffalo, dating back to the 1852 and 1869 respectively.

I'd put money on someone trying just to preserve historic buildings.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

So Killdozer except more Wacolly inclined

[-] context@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago

a real estate developer in buffalo, so really just the owner of that particular building, but it looks like he's been trying to tear it down to build high rise luxury apartments or something

[-] Midnight1938@reddthat.com 17 points 4 months ago
[-] driving_crooner 34 points 4 months ago

The government forcing you to sell something to it. Usually done in poor neighborhoods to build projects they're not going to benefit from.

[-] Midnight1938@reddthat.com 12 points 4 months ago
[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It’s when the government/police can seize your property/assets/belongings without being charged for a crime. For example, when a highway is being built and you refuse to sell your house, so they take/sell your house by force. With cops, they just need to “suspect” you’re committing a crime; even after they confirmed you haven’t, fhey still keep your stuff.

**my bad, the police seizure is asset forfeiture. Similar concept as eminent domain, but different procedures.

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago

I love how the chinese have nail houses because the govt can't just fucking take your shit like they do in the west. But we're the free ones 🙄

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

They apparently did a few times when they did vanity projects like hosting the olympics

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

so they take/sell your house by force

It's a forced sale -- they take your house but pay you market value for it. And it can only occur after you get an opportunity to oppose it in court.

It's one of those things that can be done better or worse, but it's a power every state has because there are material constraints on where public works can be built.

[-] Midnight1938@reddthat.com 15 points 4 months ago

Thanks ryan gosling

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago

Weird take -- people get charged with arson all the time, and a building burning down always gets investigated because it's a huge danger and there's a lot of insurance money on the line.

There's a chance he skates on this, but it's far from a guarantee.

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