Using my mouse and keyboard as I walk sideways across the balcony, I hold control key to mantle over the ledge before firing my weapon at the other players, a cool drink in arm's reach, the temperature a steady 72°F and comfortable humidity. The smell of a dinner preparing in my nostrils.

"This is about accuracy in gaming, something I take very seriously as a weapons expert," I state plainly.

"Who are you talking to?" my older sister asks, looking through the doorway. Her brow is furrowed.

"His name is ViperKing33 and he's basically a real commando in real life. He is an expert marksman and builds his own weapons."

ViperKing33 later asks if I've seen my sister's boobs before going offline to help his dad with the trash.

Can't hear their complaints over the sound of me jamming clips into my silenced dual wield Assault Rifle 15s that I fire while sliding.

Realism in games? Retvrn to Goldeneye where if you had 2 guns the brass flew out of the opposite side on your second gun because the devs just mirrored the models and animations and we liked it that way.

Gun owners and enthusiasts are extremely annoying. Every time a gun is shown, you get a bunch of annoying people virtue signaling about le trigger finger and le magazine NOT CLIP!!

And they’re not anal about the gameplay mechanics. They’re anal about the animation details which shows the character having a normie understanding of firearm technique.

Anyway, not even Tarkov is as realistic. I’d say ARMA, Project Reality, and Squad are because the player holds the gun right in front of them at a lowered position rather than to the side like most FPS games.

If you know how to aim irons, especially illumated irons, work very well in games. Plus it looks visually neat, it more clearly distinguishes between hip fire and ads, and it's more diegetically integrated, you're looking at something that exists in the game and not a cross hair.

For a horror game irons can also restrict your fov and already limited peripheral vision, increasing the tension when you need to shoot accurately but also keep track of things aroiund you.

If the game wants you to be a cool special agent "are you a bad enough dude to save the president" then shooting accurate and effectively is what bad special agent dudes do.

It's not going to make the game worse, but it is nice to have.

c/badposting is where this belongs. I am sorry you decided to be so passionately wrong on the issue of ironsights.

Call me old but I prefer the old firing from the hip approach of older games. Iron sights tend to take up the entire screen, like the shooter is pressing it right up against their eye for some scope bite.

Hell I enjoy old shooters like Rainbow Six and SWAT 3 which don't even have gun models.

This is the equivalent of those insufferable “drums are never animated correctly” videos. If the gameplay is engaging and fun, I don’t care if the serial number on the gun you can see for three frames doesn’t match the numbering system that manufacturer uses.

DAE LE TRIGGER DISCIPLINE

DAE LE MAGAZINE

It's just another "man card renewal" ritual done by insecure types.

Click and bullets go in the screen center.

I'm fine with not using the iron sights if there's no further level of aim (counter strike) or if there's not really any iron sights on the guns (Halo). But if you're in a first person game, it feels weird to just zoom in when there are iron sights on the gun that the character would be using. For me, it's about being more immersed in the game play. It's like when you look down and can't see yourself. Yeah it doesn't break the game but it definitely takes you out of it a little bit.

I’m a sucker for realistic gun mechanics like Tarkov

I laughed when one of the Nazis in Green Room did the "it's a cartridge, not a bullet, the bullet is just the part that flies."

Me, when I entered this thread for the first time expecting some noncontroversial dunking merriment:

if unreal tournament didn't need iron sights, nobody needs iron sights, simple as

idc what the upgrade actually is i just want my numbers to go up

little metal thingy on teh back of gun? sure why not it makes one of my lil bars bigger

No, my COD brain need the ironsights in modern games.

If I wanted to use iron sights I'd play pavlov be

If I'm using a mous and keyboard, please let me bunny hop and hip fire like a cracked out demon

i know ive posted a lot in this thread but i have a rant. generally i think its weird how all shooter games have very similar controls these days, bring back lock on aiming like in old skool SOCOM and PS2 half life and red faction imo. or rather instead of bringing back, come up with new stuff or new spins on old stuff. i'm absolutely exhausted and sick of playing 'COD but x genre' or 'Quake but x genre' games. i think lock-on aiming systems have a lot of potential and might even be closer to real life instinctual aiming in CQB situations. i also think more games should have a difference between 'weapon up' and 'weapon down' postures with implications for mobility and other gameplay systems. the metal gear series touches on some of this but nothing goes as far as i want. like compare how people move in any given FPS or TPS game and then watch a decent war movie like saving private ryan or full metal jacket, and notice how much more agile real people seem. diving and rolling and crawling and running hunched over. clumsy but fluid, not mechanical and floaty or glide-y. we are so so far from having that in any videogame, and im not convinced its purely an issue of controls or input. so many games animate the player characters like they are a drone more than a person or even a physically existing android.