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https://www.wired.com/story/china-conquers-mexican-automotive-market-and-the-us-is-worried/

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State department hand wringing that China is going to use the US trade agreements as they were designed is chefs-kiss

I fully expect them to redo these with "except china" clauses.

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[-] JayTreeman@hexbear.net 103 points 1 week ago

Entire world is showing how much they want cheap evs. US automakers: check out this truck

[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 60 points 1 week ago

Chevy: "Introducing the Chevy Bolt, the best electric vehicle made in the US!" Also Chevy: "fuck you, we're discontinuing it, buy a truck"

[-] btfod@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

Not taking up for GM, just sayin: Bolt is coming back with their newer battery platform. I think it's launching with the 2025 year model

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago

Bringing it back as a crossover SUV, and they're dropping Android Auto/CarPlay so they can datamine you harder and have more data to sell.

eco-porky Enshittification rules!

[-] graymess@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Jesus christ, everything is a fucking SUV in the US.

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[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 91 points 1 week ago

Forcing a cold war that doesn't need to exist and that the rest of the world wants no part in, only results your "enemy" working with other nations? shocked-pikachu

[-] kittin@hexbear.net 46 points 1 week ago

It’s them or me!

No wait

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago

When all you have is a hammer…

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 44 points 1 week ago

all you need is a sickle?

[-] SupFBI@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

Hey! I spent $15000 on this hammer. You better believe in going to use it!

[-] btfod@hexbear.net 88 points 1 week ago

God, I would HATE IT SO MUCH if I could buy a cheap electric car. I'm SO FUCKIN WORRIED GUYS!

[-] TheVelvetGentleman@hexbear.net 59 points 1 week ago

I too wish the free market was actually free sometimes. I want a small, cheap, efficient car like literally every other country in the world produces.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago

I use protectionism as a huge talking point so much.

“We like to claim we’re all about free market, but the US is a very protectionist country and even then only to capital, the idea of protectionism for workers like affordable college or stopping companies from shipping jobs overseas is seen as profane but workers are not allowed to outsource where they consume.

[-] btfod@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Real talk, I'm strongly considering buying a used EV on the cheap. Trying to suss out which platforms are the likeliest to have a longer lifespan. I think circa 2019 Bolts are in my sweet spot of affordability and best chance of holding up longer term. I'd love to find one with 20-40k miles on it.

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[-] kristina@hexbear.net 75 points 1 week ago

so what youre saying is i should go to mexico to buy an EV

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 47 points 1 week ago
[-] waluigiblunts@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wouldn't you face problems with importing and registering it in the USA?

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Probably not, no, I think you could just drive it across the border, if it's only one. The Chinese cars aren't illegal here they are just subject to a 100% tariff. I'm talking out of my ass though so take it for what it's worth

Edit: I forgot about the safety standards. Wouldn't want anyone getting hurt. Better stick to the cybertruck for now

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

I'm talking out of my ass though so take it for what it's worth

yeah. From what I know about japanese imports even if you can get them to the US you can't register them if that model of car was never sold here (and maybe even if it was, idr), since technically it never passed various US safety tests that are mandatory. There have been lots of exotic cars crushed for trying. If it's older than 25 years though you get an exemption from the safety standards.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

ready and waiting to buy a 2024 BYD car in.... 2049

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[-] fart@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

you absolutely cannot do this

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

B-b-but what about the free market liberty-weeping

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

Can you just keep it registered in mexico somehow? I live near the border and see mexican plates pretty often

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[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

You'd probably have to pay a fuckton of fees to get it registered at one of the state DMVs in the US. Sadly probably too expensive/ too much of a pain in the ass to be worth it

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[-] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 73 points 1 week ago

Mexico please sell me an affordably priced EV that you obtained from China, I promise I won't tell Uncle Sam where you got it.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 62 points 1 week ago

USA finding out that for as much as it used capitalism to advance the USA's interests capitalism was using the USA to advance capitalism's interests just a little bit more.

Dang, sorry dudes. ancrap

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago

The genesis of Deng Xiaoping thought is recognizing that these bastards would sell their grandmothers for a nickel

[-] miz@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

today we have innovated and financialized it to where we can lease out grandmothers on a subscription basis

download our new app Eldr

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago

I thought this was so funny that it deserved a comment in addition to an upvote. Go you :)

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[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 60 points 1 week ago

Flood of immigrant EVs over southern border threatens US billionaire manchild's job

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

Billionario trabajos banditos :mex-sicko:

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago

How dare you command the loyalty of our great beast?!?!

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

If this reaches some arbitrary threshold of manufacturing above that which US capital is comfortable with they will begin restricting and rewriting what “free trade” means

[-] dumpster_dove@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

Altering NAFTA and telling Mexico to "pray we don't alter it further"? Wouldn't put it past them.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

All the free trade propaganda stems from a time when imperialist powers depended on it to steamroll native industries in the periphery. Of course, it was associated with all the liberty freedom democracy propaganda, so once it no longer became preferable and even enabled the possibility of the reverse happening, they have to materially oppose it, but still wax poetic about it to please their bootlickers and sycophants.

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[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

I forsee a renegotiation of nafta that has "China bad" clauses, also more discipline of labour, as a treat

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

I believe it's now "CUMSA"

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[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago

Shame that it'll be next to impossible to get one of those up here

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

Not if they build the factories in Mexico!

[-] D61@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

I never looked into it... but now I'm wondering if there are POV style vehicles that you legally aren't allowed to get registered at the DMV?

Could there be a federal regulation or 50 states worth of state regulation that prohibits the import, sale, and registration of certain makes/models of vehicles?

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[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

It's more of a "it's cost-prohibitive to ship something we can't price gouge the shit out of and there's a lack of infrastructure to support it" deal.

[-] JayTreeman@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

This is the likely outcome. China would still make most of the parts, and they'll be assembled in Mexico. It's going to destroy US and Canada auto manufacturing. ... I live in Canada, and the writing is on the wall. Our entire economy relies on housing market go up. Canada is going to be 'third world' in 20 years. Pockets of good services surrounded by utter poverty.... I had brown outs this weekend. I live in a population center.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

At first i just read "China conquers Mexico" and was like "Please do Poland now"

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 25 points 1 week ago

God I hope this turns into a BYD dealership in Hermosillo and not a pipeline directly into the US skipping all the people that actually live in Mexico.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

Per the article china is already market leader in MX, presumably these could be had there already

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