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[–] Cammy@hexbear.net 71 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please, any unironic Kamala supporters, could you tell me how this is a win and not a condemnation of her 'platform?'

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 64 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Reagan was to the left of her on Israel

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you could say anyone who didn't participate in actively committing a genocide on Palestinians was to the left on the issue.

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah but he actually phoned them up when they were bombing Lebanon in 80s and told them to knock it off.

[–] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Specifically he told then Prime Minister Begin that it looked like a holocaust, which offended Begin as he had spent time in a concentration camp as a child during WWII. However the Israeli campaigns stopped something like an hour after the call, so clearly it worked.

Also supposedly Biden was extremely unhappy about the President telling Israel to stop, so Biden has literally never been good on that issue, ever.

[–] Coca_Cola_but_Commie@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Hearing and reading libs says shit like "See, Dick Cheney knows that Trump is even worse than he was, that's why we have to vote blue" is infuriating. How can't they see what's really happening here?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think they know exactly what's going on here, and they're just gaslighting everyone.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lots are probably in denial

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Cammy@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Brunch is singing her siren song and we're gonna crash into the rocks.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

How can't they see what's really happening here?

The same way libs 100 years ago couldn't see what was happening. They either refuse to believe there's something going on, or support it.

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago

Imagine how MAGA chuds would react if like Jane Fonda endorsed Trump

[–] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

man these libs including kdolf hitler herself at the debate, bragging about how much conservatives love kamala, how do liberals who believe themselves to be progressive or even left wing not see that and think “maybe i shouldn’t support the same candidate as these vampires”?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 month ago

One of my fav quotes on libs:

Therefore, whenever economic liberalism finds itself under threat from “populism”, it quickly jettisons the principles of political liberalism to which it is theoretically tied. In other words, these “principles” are not principles at all, just convenient postures designed to cloak the unpleasant reality of the economic liberals’ capitalist system.

https://orgrad.wordpress.com/articles/liberalism-the-two-faced-tyranny-of-wealth

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

wow, we're just now hearing folks, but Satan himself has now endorsed Kamala Harris!! Yass Kween!!!!

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

#Satan for Great Satan isn't very hot election slogan though

[–] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Harris is really going balls deep in trying to win over the mythical "Mueller meme" #resist voter from 2017.

[–] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Which is so fucking odd, because those people have been democrats since 2017 and gleefully told everyone about their "conversions" every chance they've had.

Even Reagan crew moves more to right

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

'a big republican guy is gonna endorse kamala'

'reagan's staffers invoke the spirit of reagan and say he'd be pro cop'

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Can't wait for her to get the coveted proud boys endorsement

[–] VernetheJules@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

democrats and republicans reaching their platonic ideal of a Mobius strip

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

You are misunderstanding their priorities.

People from former republican administrations are not the sort of people who take principled, reasonable positions.

These are sycophants jumping from the burning ship.

They know any chance Trump had to recapture power vanished when Biden decided not to re-run.

They know the republican party is in a bad place because Trump's RNC is doing nothing to support down-ticket candidates. It's a powerless organization made only of unpopular positions on any sort of visible issues.

MAGA will continue to imprint itself through the judiciary until Dems pack the courts (again), but supporting Kamala is the sycophant's only play right now.

Because they are not reasonable or principled people, I would not expect them to have any reasonable or principled input on policy.

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Your suprised at the idea that these ghouls could genuinely prefer Harris even after knowing her border policies?

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of liberal voters don't know her border policies

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Nobody cares about anyone's border policies, except for Trump's racist base.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

You should try to tell Kamala that then, her current pitch is that she will be harder on the border than Trump.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

I care quite a lot about Kamala adopting Joe's border shutdown policies, and her deciding to run on Trump being 'soft' on the border.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

Republicans jumping ship isn't talked about enough. Paul Ryan knew to bail before those investigations started about corruption back in 2015ish. I think even more republicans saw Trump throw his own VP under the bus and realized they, too, are expendable. And since Trump has faced zero consequences while everyone around him goes to prison, they don't want to rely on getting a pardon when the party wants them to do something stupid.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My interpretation of these stories is that it's meant for republicans.

It certainly sucks hearing these shitheads endorse Kamela as a sane person. These psychos are trying to rehabilitate themselves. But republicans seem to be mostly influenced by "their authorities" not by argument. So to beat Trump, this is probably a good strategy.

[–] Yllych@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

can you see how admitting that reaganite endorsements = a surefire strategy is an indictment of the entire american political system, and leaves the only sane choice of dismantling the american state-machine before it does even more genocide

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

... Sure, but I'm talking about their propaganda strategy and trying to understand it.