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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by OrionsMask@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net

Which is it? Which do you use? Are there different associations between them?

I've always said it "comrad," but when I started to meet people in orgs, they predominantly say "comrayd" (within the same country).

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[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago

My impression is that com-rad is associated with the USA and com-raid is associated with Britain and Ireland. I'm not sure what the situation is for other English-speaking countries, but if I were to hazard a guess, one pronunciation over the other might be associated with the relative prestige or influence of British and American English for that person, for instance if you learned the word through American media you might pronounce it in an American way. I'm not an expert, though.

I personally say com-rad.

[-] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

We're firmly in com-raid territory in australia, also I've had people pick fights with me after i casually called them comrade, that was a trip

[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago

The former. The latter sounds way too Alphinaud Leveilleur and my years of being that much of a twink are behind me

[-] Ivysaur@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

frauddog, are you too a XIV?! There's so many of us here!!

[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

I've stolen a pair of pants or two in my time, yes.

[-] hypercracker@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago

It's pronounced tóngzhì, get used to saying it

however apparently this is contemporary slang for gay in some parts of China

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Do you think the slang comes from the homoerotic USSR-PRC propaganda?

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

however apparently this is contemporary slang for gay in some parts of China

It is from this Chinese slang term that Toki Pona got its word for enby, "tonsi"

[-] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

its cumrag. i kiss all my homies on the lips

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Isn't that what the Welsh call their own language?

[-] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

yeah the welsh speak cum

it's comraid shadow legends

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

Cum Raid: Swallow Goons

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

I use com-rad.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

none of the antecedent words contain an 'ayd' sound, i am forced to conclude this is some ridiculous RP british problem, and everyone else is doing it normal

[-] underisk@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

How do you pronounce camaraderie? I’ve never heard anyone say com-ray-dar-e” so I usually go with “com-rad”

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

I'd say "camaraderie" with the vowel in palm, and "comrade" with the vowel in trap.

[-] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly my thoughts!

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's also how I remember whether to say "ih-TAL-ih-yan" vs "AYE-tal-e-yan".. there is no "AYE-tal-ee"

[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

I seldom say comrade since I'm usually in public settings and have to generally avoid drawing attention.

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Just stick with /tʰʊŋ³⁵ ʈ͡ʂʐ̩⁵¹/ honestly. If you accidentally use it on an anti-communist you can just say you thought they were a fellow member of the LGBT community.

(I'm American and say comrad)

[-] miz@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

is that a rendering of 同志 in... IPA? doesn't look like IPA to me but I have little knowledge of it

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah it's the Sinological IPA I got from Wiktionary lol

[-] miz@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

TIL how IPA does tone marks with those small numbers. very cool

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

There are a few different ways IPA can represent tone. I've more commonly seen tone represented with ˩ ˨ ˧ ˦ ˥ which can form ligatures like ˦˧˥

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well that's how Sinological IPA does it anyway

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Broke: 'comrade'

Bespoke: 'tovarisch comrade'

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Either, largely depending on accent.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

This country had to be british

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

I call ppl "tovarshi"

[-] Sausage@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

It’s enjoyer

[-] ComradeSpahija@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

I say "camarade"; though in English I say "com-rad"

[-] thetaT@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

ამხანაგი

[-] AmericaHaterSexHaver@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Lerios@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

i'm dyslexic, i'm pronouncing things how they're written. its comrade and no amount of 'correcting' me wil ever do shit sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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