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Which is it? Which do you use? Are there different associations between them?

I've always said it "comrad," but when I started to meet people in orgs, they predominantly say "comrayd" (within the same country).

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[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My impression is that com-rad is associated with the USA and com-raid is associated with Britain and Ireland. I'm not sure what the situation is for other English-speaking countries, but if I were to hazard a guess, one pronunciation over the other might be associated with the relative prestige or influence of British and American English for that person, for instance if you learned the word through American media you might pronounce it in an American way. I'm not an expert, though.

I personally say com-rad.

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

We're firmly in com-raid territory in australia, also I've had people pick fights with me after i casually called them comrade, that was a trip

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The former. The latter sounds way too Alphinaud Leveilleur and my years of being that much of a twink are behind me

[–] Ivysaur@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

frauddog, are you too a XIV?! There's so many of us here!!

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

I've stolen a pair of pants or two in my time, yes.

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's pronounced tóngzhì, get used to saying it

however apparently this is contemporary slang for gay in some parts of China

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Do you think the slang comes from the homoerotic USSR-PRC propaganda?

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

however apparently this is contemporary slang for gay in some parts of China

It is from this Chinese slang term that Toki Pona got its word for enby, "tonsi"

[–] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

its cumrag. i kiss all my homies on the lips

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't that what the Welsh call their own language?

[–] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

yeah the welsh speak cum

[–] idontknowwhattonamemyself@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it's comraid shadow legends

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Cum Raid: Swallow Goons

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

I use com-rad.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

none of the antecedent words contain an 'ayd' sound, i am forced to conclude this is some ridiculous RP british problem, and everyone else is doing it normal

[–] underisk@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

How do you pronounce camaraderie? I’ve never heard anyone say com-ray-dar-e” so I usually go with “com-rad”

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

I'd say "camaraderie" with the vowel in palm, and "comrade" with the vowel in trap.

[–] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Exactly my thoughts!

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's also how I remember whether to say "ih-TAL-ih-yan" vs "AYE-tal-e-yan".. there is no "AYE-tal-ee"

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

I seldom say comrade since I'm usually in public settings and have to generally avoid drawing attention.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Just stick with /tʰʊŋ³⁵ ʈ͡ʂʐ̩⁵¹/ honestly. If you accidentally use it on an anti-communist you can just say you thought they were a fellow member of the LGBT community.

(I'm American and say comrad)

[–] miz@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

is that a rendering of 同志 in... IPA? doesn't look like IPA to me but I have little knowledge of it

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah it's the Sinological IPA I got from Wiktionary lol

[–] miz@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

TIL how IPA does tone marks with those small numbers. very cool

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

There are a few different ways IPA can represent tone. I've more commonly seen tone represented with ˩ ˨ ˧ ˦ ˥ which can form ligatures like ˦˧˥

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Well that's how Sinological IPA does it anyway

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Broke: 'comrade'

Bespoke: 'tovarisch comrade'

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Either, largely depending on accent.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

This country had to be british

I call ppl "tovarshi"

[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

It’s enjoyer

[–] ComradeSpahija@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

I say "camarade"; though in English I say "com-rad"

[–] thetaT@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

ამხანაგი

[–] Lerios@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

i'm dyslexic, i'm pronouncing things how they're written. its comrade and no amount of 'correcting' me wil ever do shit sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯