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All the poor artists and creators on Twitter.

Prior to today, you could opt out of having your posts used for AI / generative training. The new amended terms and conditions have made it impossible to do so.

Will this artist exodus make Blue$kkky better? probably not but it would be funny if it did

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[-] Tommasi@hexbear.net 11 points 21 hours ago

Cool that if someone reposts your art on twitter without your permission it's going straight into the LLM mines.

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 6 points 19 hours ago

it was probably a bad idea to ever post your "content" on Twitter without heavily watermarking/filtering the fuck out of it.

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Like I've always said: the property and licensing argument about AI training has always been a corporate psyop to set up and legitimize moves like this, where big property holders and content hosts get to reap the rewards by claiming dominion over everything they touch while everyone who works and creates gets fucked, and the proprietary slop generator they feed becomes "legitimate and ok, because it's properly licensing its training data". That's why AI is a labor issue rather than a property issue: AI isn't stealing extant art, it's devaluing skilled labor and destroying creative jobs and setting up for further squeezing and extraction by Capital.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 day ago

A lot of artists moved from Deviantart to Twitter after Deviantart went all in on AI. So I imagine this will produce a similar exodus.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

LLMs, as applied by techbros, are labor stealing devices. Full stop.

[-] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

you're just describing Capital in general.

Capital is dead labor, which, vampire-like, lives only by sucking living labor, and lives the more, the more labor it sucks. The time during which the labourer works, is the time during which the capitalist consumes the labour-power

All capital is ossified value from past labor, which gave its "life" as labor to the expression of the value contained in its product, the realization of which occurs at the exact point the capitalist can parasitically extract its surplus which will be done; and when enough labor has been sucked up in large enough quantities, it is ossified as more capital upon which and toward the further augmentation of which, the 'next generation' of living labor will give its own 'life' just as all of the 'generations' of dead labor before it. It is no great surprise, then, that the capital of vulture capitalists in silicon valley are the same and function the same. As people have been saying online for a long time, under capitalism if you're not paying for the product, and the company is for-profit, you are the product (but more accurately, you are certainly producing the product).

As always in history, the question with new technology remains about its ownership, and the social relations in the societal organization in which it arose and exists. Just as the question is and has been the same regarding all of the other automated means of production which have been putting people out of work for 15+ years (but which much of the internet didn't care all too much about until it started now affecting petty bourgeois jobs and interests); which remains the same question as all means of production and subsistence. Its ownership, and the social relations in the societal organization from which they arose and in which they exist.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 23 hours ago

Not all capital in general is as universally energy demanding, polluting, or exists in the exact same material conditions (such as an already decaying environment and escalating climate collapse).

A better economic system would use the technology responsibly and wouldn't permit such a wasteful data base sprawl to happen, especially not for techbro whims.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Real talk is Blue Sky a valid alternative? If not, are there any other replacements for twitter?

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 9 points 23 hours ago

There can be no valid alternative to Twitter because the Twitter format is fundamentally bad and always has been. It's just more obvious now with Elon heightening all its flaws but the unthreaded broadcast microblog with realnameposting was always a bad idea.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 6 points 22 hours ago

A subreddit is just a twitter account with crowd-submitted content and a better comments section. This extends to lemmy also.

The one thing Twitter had going for it was their algorithm which enabled tonnes of activism and journalistic content reach. Whether or not Bluesky succeeds will be determined by whether they can get institutional buy-in (news orgs and so on) which is what got Twitter to explode.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

its valid if you follow enough cool people that you only get their cool posts, otherwise its like if lemmy had only lemmyworld but with lib journalists.

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