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[–] sisatici@hexbear.net 61 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Counter point: it is very uncertain if they are going to care about it even if trump wins

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

they're going to care about it preformatively

[–] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 36 points 3 weeks ago

This. Its all performative but guaranteed they will be unbearably self righteous and smug about not only how much they care but also about how Harris could have brought about a cease fire if the radical left would just be adults. Palestinians are just a fucking prop to them whatever they claim otherwise.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I shared a snarky post on Facebook. I'm doing my part maybe-later-kiddo

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

I can see them saying that democrats need to "pretend" they're even more racist.

[–] thebartermyth@hexbear.net 40 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think the performative caring about anything gets undercut by how fickle and useless libs are as allies. Maybe a year or two ago I'd say that libs agreeing with the left with trump in office would be a silver lining, but honestly they're just kinda useless. It seems harder to persuade libs than it is to persuade people entirely disconnected from politics even if they get the performative anti-trump benefit. Idk maybe I'm just in a doomer mood.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It seems harder to persuade libs than it is to persuade people entirely disconnected from politics

It absolutely is. Libs have made a choice about where they stand just like we have. We need to start accepting that. Its not just the US propaganda and living within liberal ideology. At this point they've seen all the failures of everything they believe in and they've doubled down. They've fully embraced "voting for the lesser evil" as a theory of change. They've watched the country they uncritically believe is good genocide Palestinians and completely accept it as a non issue.

Libs have made a choice

[–] thebartermyth@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The main thing for me is how libs nitpick and fight into fake ideas that they think are a 'progressive middle ground' which are just extremely evil and unserious. I distinctly remember a lib explaining an elaborate plan of how they would have NATO build a giant wall to enforce a two-state-solution and I just kinda started losing it and showing them pictures of the west bank barrier on my phone. They kept insisting that if NATO ran the wall it would stop israel from expanding.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

They kept insisting that if NATO ran the wall it would stop israel from expanding.

The UN peacekeepers in Lebanon are currently illustrating exactly how that would go even if NATO troops actually somehow cared about trying to do that (which they would not)

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

All the bizarre ways libs come up with to "solve" things, but never once do they suggest ending the apartheid.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nor do they ever factor in material and geopolitical realities in their schemes.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Well of course not. #1 it would require knowing about the material and geopolitical realities which they don't. #2 it would require them to consider that material conditions matter more than their idealist hasbara that this is a conflict that's gone on for "thousands of years" because some people don't like other people because religion or something

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

Afaik they haven't even put on branded novely hats and stood around in an open field over this. Also the way they rolled over on Roe without a fight, and everything else.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

thinking-about-it when trump wins, we all the kids in Biden's Fun Time Totally Not Concentration Camps (tm) be considered kids in cages again?

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yep

We'll prolly get another AOC photoshoot at the border with her crying

And we'll hear loudly about EVERY arms shipment to Israel (we'll still send them lots of guns though)

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe "the squad" will do something really daring - like one or two of them voting present instead of yay!

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

That's AOC's recent PR pivot. She wants plausible deniability for supporting genocide if Harris loses.

Timed exactly why Harris' poll numbers went down to a dead heat / losing.

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago

speech-side-r-1Ethnic Cleansing Is Wrong.speech-side-r-2i-think-that

[–] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

They are going want daps and pounds for such a bold statement too.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tom Lerher Love Me I'm a Liberal.flac

They haven't changed at all in sixty years.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

You mixed up Lehrer and Ochs, I think. That's a cool universe to imagine, though.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

is the guy standing up a meme on twitter too or does Eli Valley hang out on hexbear

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 weeks ago

it's a meme from Twitter originally I'm pretty sure

[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

The phrase has gone from "liberals are against every war except the current one" to "liberals are against every war except the ones funded by democrats"

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

No way. They'll mutter it to themselves and their liberal friends privately, while going along with it in public.