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How many of you are actually prophetic?
this post was submitted on 17 Sep 2023
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Pretty sure that's me being quoted. Unfortunately I don't think genuinely wanting revolution and being capable of SA are mutually exclusive.
Sorry this wasn't a dunk on you, I even brought it up because I myself was on the fence about Brand.
I just thought it was funny
I still think the same way about his whole shtick tbh. Just that these accusations are also very believable unfortunately.
I dunno I kinda feel like he was grifting but who knows. part of me just thinks: show me someone who commits a SA and I will show you someone who isn't a revolutionary leftist but idk
show me someone who commits a SA and I will show you someone who isn't a revolutionary leftist but idk
I think some of Stalin's allegations make this a difficult position to maintain.
those allegations are so baseless even the anti-tankie crowd doesnt mention it much. could it have happened? sure. but the evidence is shaky at best and rests on one historians word, Simon Sebag Montefiore. Plus Kruschev was on an anti-Stalin speedrun.
I know this is such a lib line, but the validity doesn't matter to her point. I think Stalin probably didn't do it, but in the future there certainly will be some important revolutionaries who commit SA because that's something that, sadly, people in positions of power do that with alarming frequency. We're gonna have to figure out how to reconcile that very effective revolutionaries can sometimes be terrible people.
protecting abusers in the name of the revolution is doing the work of the feds for them. no single person is so important that it's worth protecting them while jeopardizing the whole movement - it's precisely our urge to protect abusers that feds use to infiltrate, divide, and destroy.
You're right, if we're talking about active people then yes, we gotta root out abusers. I was thinking more in cases where it's uncovered afterward, but didn't qualify it in my comment.
ahh got it. that makes more sense.
It's a nice sentiment that'll blind us to reality. What will actually differentiate us from our enemies is how we will respond when leftists do it. I don't care if he says the right things.
Yeah, a lot of us don’t have to look further than our local orgs to see this is the case
Apollo cursed us all like Cassandra.
I don't know if it's prophecy or the fact that we all expect the worst of all outcomes and the world rarely fails to surprise us
All of my prophecies have come true so far.
I'm pretty sure it's not prophecy, it's manifesting for the bit.
The lathe turns
The lathe is available to all, but Dirt Owl is screaming and flapping their wings at anyone who goes near it.
If you actually read real revolutionary texts by real revolutionaries, it's pretty easy to tell the difference. It's all about the initial axioms they are operating on.
Also, there’s a difference between pithy observations on working class oppression and having a fully fledged revolutionary ideology mapped out.
I'm ootl on this one, what happened with Brand?
MeToo'd
he wants revolution & is also a sex pest. as someone that was unfortunately at a venue he happened to be in, i fully believe he is capable of the allegations about him that have shown up.
Something cordinated dumps on Jimmy Dore and Russel Brand
Jimmy Dore taking 
money to move into 
territory and Russel Brand pedo accusations right as primary season kicks off. Not to say they are false but the timing screams political smear campaigns.