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Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can't remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=8.016975588774075%2C64.4248907814756&z=2&mid=1zDWxhBN5aOofwpE-FkZWQsiFDlE

Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you're on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won't bring up the info.

This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you're interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I'll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I'm going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.

The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/

This next one I'm going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the "Lhamana" and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.

Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a "middle" as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won't go in detail here because I don't feel qualified to summarize it, but it's in the link down below.

The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don't refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn't an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.

As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There's probably some cultural significance to this, but I'm not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women's work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion

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[โ€“] Yukiko@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In the hospital for my top surgery. Iโ€™ll see all you folks on the other side :3

[โ€“] PaX@hexbear.net 10 points 23 hours ago

Omg, good luck, I hope it goes well :3

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[โ€“] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 9 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

Are audio cassettes making a comeback? I've bought two new albums recently that had the option of getting them on cassette.

[โ€“] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 8 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

Yes. It's terrible. Sometimes I want a CD and all they've got is a cassette. doggirl-tears

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[โ€“] Tommasi@hexbear.net 16 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Welp, I can no longer get blood tests for my diy doggirl-sweat my gp doesn't want to do it unless I start the process of trying to get meds the legitimate way, but i'm not willing to suffer through the shitty, extremely transphobic gatekeeper national service to maybe after like 3-4 years get oral or transdermal hrt when it's much more convenient for me to do injection monotherapy and not have to be on an anti-androgen.

Idk what to do, even though it hasn't been hard for me to get my test supressed and stuff I would feel a lot safer if I could just get routine check-ups every few months.

[โ€“] Thallo@hexbear.net 11 points 22 hours ago

Yup, my GP said the exact same thing.

Trying to figure it out myself.

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[โ€“] Eco@hexbear.net 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

immaturitysmegma is such a funny word. like smeg as a syllable is already top tier but the ma elevates it

[โ€“] AshenWolf@hexbear.net 4 points 16 hours ago

This sounds like something my sister would say

[โ€“] Huldra@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Anyone know any good spaces or accounts that talk about classical tailoring type shit for transfem people, like sports coats, dorky scarves/ascots, non-denim trousers type shit?

Most of what I find just casually searching is heavily geared towards transmasc people instead, and a lot of transfem fashion tends to lean either very feminine alt or harder butch.

[โ€“] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[โ€“] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh hey it's my contribution to the site taglines

[โ€“] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

can i subscribe to your newsletter?

[โ€“] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

708 notifications... gee whiz

[โ€“] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

hosting a megathread is very good for inbox related activities

[โ€“] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

why haven't you cleared them...

[โ€“] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

because i like when number goes up and i dont have upbears visible catgirl-flop

[โ€“] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ok... i guess i will allow it

[โ€“] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

we have the best mods, folks a-little-trolling

Since I have to wait on the estrogen to arrive again I was thinking of already taking the bicalutamide I have.

[โ€“] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

depressionWas trying on writing a thing linking me not enjoying smut because I'm asexual, along with only really snjoying it because i long for companionship. it just kinda turned into me being really sad. Got depressed, had a few panics attacks. Gonna try just going to sleep. Also need to get a new psychiatrist because they last few I've had all sucked and I haven't had someone to talk about my problems (and fail to provide solitions) to for months.

[โ€“] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Getting home from work and reading one piece in a miniskirt and heels just because

Next time you could try reading miniskirt and heels* in a one piece just because

*This is just a bit, not an actual reading recommendation

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[โ€“] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

today in adventures in being out at work

guy comes up to me and while i'm pretty used to being called "sir" because of my barely trained voice, this guy called me "sir" before i fucking said a word to him agony-deep, so I just took a mental deep breath and responded to him in my best femme voice I could muster. I think I could feel that it was at least good enough to put him on his toes because the rest of the interaction was kind of awkward and he never called me a man after

[โ€“] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

this guy called me "sir"

"I'm not a "Sir"! I work for a living you damn muppet!!"

in your best drill instructor voice

[โ€“] PaX@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Based, unlimited gender expression warfare on the cis

My dream is to cause such gender awkwardness among them that their reductive and mechanistic conceptions of gender simply shatter :3

Or something lol

[โ€“] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd really like to simply be gendered properly as a woman by strangers but for the time being it's just going to be unlimited funny looks at my nametag until i can get my voice training down

[โ€“] PaX@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That's fair ofc

I was joking, but only kind of, and I'm extremely socially inept so wasn't sure how to convey kitty-cri-potato

Personally I used to love when people in my retail jobs called me by the "wrong" gender even if they would usually "correct" themselves lol (I donut want to be forcibly slotted into these social categories) even before I was starting to realize the full scope of what I wanted (I'm still not out to many people :( )

I hope you can get these mfs to gender you properly soon

Sorry

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[โ€“] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@ashinadash@hexbear.net

sang St. Vincent to myself in the gym shower after leg day lady-doge

had a lil' moment getting dressed while achy and exhausted at the lyric "I'm so glad I came but I can't wait to leave" on Dancing With A Ghost catgirl-cry

[โ€“] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

okay. with the encouragement of multiple people, i decided to say something:

pee peewait, fuck! no!

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[โ€“] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ah who needs girl clothes when you can just listen to shoegaze all day long kel-bliss

[โ€“] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

stuff

All clothes are girl clothes when you're a girl and you're the one wearing them

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[โ€“] ScreamoBMO@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

I fucking love my trans comrades so much trans-heart

[โ€“] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (14 children)
[โ€“] PaX@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't know, they never let me say my X sentence in that regular language I defined, hmpf!~

[โ€“] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i am formally giving you permission to say it

[โ€“] PaX@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This changes everything walter-shock

Okay, okay I'm gonna say X

I'm gonna say X where X is a sentence in a language defined by the PCRE regular expression "^[^abcdfjklpqruvwxyz]{9} [^a-z0-9][0-9]$"!!

Xsomething :3


Now that I have said my X I am giving you permission to say your something :3

I know you can do it, whenever you're ready

cw: previous attempts at something

If it helps, I could formally require you, as part of my permission, to speak only in the languages excluded by the PCRE regexp "^(?!.*pee).*$" (excludes all languages where the substring "pee" could occur) while you say something but, as you can tell, we have left the safety and comfort of the regular languages behind ;w; but maybe it's necessary

I hope your finite automata have the strength to.... recognize that fact that they can't recognize such languages doggirl-sweat, or whatever they (I think you will need multiple) will have to be doing now if you accept this

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Omg, just realized my X regexp isn't regular either walter-breakdown

PCRE is demonic, tricks people into thinking they're using formalisms they aren't actually using

Perl-compatible regular expressions? More like Perl-compatible regularLY DEMONIC expressions!!!!

:::

ok i did research on linguistics and i think i have a good thing

here we go...tinkle

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[โ€“] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I think we should make a tracha-lite (tracha but less chaotic/probably with a spray bottle to keep users like me contained). There's been at least a few people (4~ come to mind) I've seen and talked to who said normal tracha can be overwhelming or intimidating.

I know we talked about that a bit in the tracha mods chat, but figure that tossing the idea here would probably also help it not be drowned out by other chats (might make a post or idk later as well, idk)

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