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[–] context@hexbear.net 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

but there was a lever and brian thompson had his hand on it and could have used it to save lives and chose not to in the relentless pursuit of profits

[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He could have used the lever. Then he probably would have been replaced by someone who is more willing to pull the lever.

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Previous trolly memes have attempted to describe the lever.

Our job is to make the lever.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I have some issues with this comic, but sharing it as it's related to the lib comic above:

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What issues do you have with it?

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

That Thomas didn't put it in reverse and run over him again? That's all I can come up with.

[–] kittin@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You’re standing on a railway overpass as a train approaches. The track in front is empty, everyone is currently safe from imminent harm. There a health insurance ceo on the overpass with you.

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

Moral philosophers hate this one trick

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If only reddit and Americans could extend their empathy beyond their immediate relatives and pets. Still stoked about that piece of shit ceo getting gutted 😂

[–] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

My theory: the extend of how far a human empathy reaches is limited.

I don’t mean it’s impossible just that chances of human empathy diminish the bigger the distance literally and cultural distance is.

The shot ceo was almost certainly caring well for his immediate environment.

(Only 2% of humans are psychopaths)

Saying a certain type of human is a monster and will sell out with the first chance is not helpful. Acknowledging the humans shortcomings in a modern world would be more constructive.

Edit: to be clear. You can’t rely on trust into humans to act humanely. We need system that has control of some sort to not have to trust into Walter Ceo

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Try to follow through and develop that logic past that empty and ultimately inconsequential "everyone's human!" state. Because yes, even complete monsters usually care about someone, they can be personally affable or charismatic or nice to someone they personally like or even just as a matter of professional decorum, but the important thing is that this changes nothing. What matters is what they do, what harm they cause or prevent, and it is that which defines them as a person.

Maybe there is some natural limit to how far empathy can be extended in a vacuum, or how earnest and innate empathy spread past that limit is, but that doesn't matter either because it is the place of ethics and political education to fix that limitation, to ensure that even if someone doesn't really feel for a stranger across the globe the same way they do for their family or friends, they're still making choices and decisions with a fundamental regard for that stranger's wellbeing, they're not saying "oh well it's not that big a deal if people over there are enslaved to make my treats, yim yum tasty treats love those treats!" or "oh well as long as Lockheed Martin's stock goes up it's fine for bombs to fall over there."

A callous disregard for the wellbeing and humanity of innocent people, for the humanity of the subjugated and downtrodden, that may not be a psychiatric disorder but it is ethically abhorrent and something that must be corrected with ethical and political education. Making sure to rhetorically center the humanity of actual power figures who are actually causing real material harm to countless innocent people to cynically defuse outrage against them is also ethically and politically abhorrent, because it is inherently placing them above their victims, because it is intended to place them above their victims whether consciously or not.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm sure he was a nice guy in private. So I'll be as sad about his dead as I am about the death of all others I don't know in private. In public he was a piece of shit, so as long as I'm a member of the public I'll be glad he's dead.

I can't really figure out what point you're making, are you saying that while this guy deserved it, we should acknowledge he's part of a systemic issue, or are you just trying to say "everyones human and pobodys nerfect"? I'm sorry that I am antagonistic towards you, it's just that db0 is full of dumbasses that think their average takes are novel, so my base reaction is to assume the worst, which isn't fair, but it is what it is.

Either way I don't really agree with your "certain amount of empathy". Each mans' death diminishes me, when someone is washed away I am the lesser. The bell tolls for thee. I get immensely sad when I learn about atrocities or deaths of regular people. I don't get sad when I learn about righteous justice.

[–] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yes I’m with you.

My point is: this dude will be replaced immediately, nothing will change by shooting one mf, and nothing will change for better shooting 100 mfs.

As long as the system creates their roles the roles will be occupied, asshole or not. The current system basically enables and demands the shitty behaviour of Frank wilkens, and Abc Dickens, and this shot-mf who-cares-what-his-name-was

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Socialism is when you pull the lever. Communism is when you pull the lever really hard.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Um, communism is when you replace the lever with stalin-comical-spoon

[–] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Please explain the Stalin big spoon to my friend please

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

It's a joke making fun of the thoroughly debunked nazi talking point about a "double holocaust" perpetrated by Stalin against ukrainians (referred to in Ukraine as the "holodomor" and the rest of the USSR as "the famine that hit most of the USSR and not just Ukraine specifically")
At some point it gets tiring talking to people who are unwilling to do basic research on a subject before claiming expertise, so instead of going thru the academic critique people started dismissing the double holocaust theory by just stating something like "yeah Stalin starved them to death and he did it himself by personally eating all their grain with a comically large spoon!" This is a reference to a funny video where a guy gets told he can have a spoonful of icecream and he pulls out a comically large spoon.

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[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

We all collectively slurp from the big Stalin spoon

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

Stalin was a very hungry boi.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

What is it when I crank dat hog?

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