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Of course it was that gusano Maria Salazar who introduced this bill.

Interesting to note that the text of the bill seems to focus on China and mentions Xinjiang in particular. Also how 1.5 billion people currently “suffer” under communism.

This actually seems like a bit of an own goal to me. Sure, tell a bunch of high school kids how China is an undemocratic totalitarian nightmare and that the Uighurs are currently having their organs harvested. Then those students can do literally 10 minutes of research to see that none of that is actually happening and that the people of China are pretty happy with the state of things (at least relative to US Americans).

I should point out for non-US Americans here, education in the US is decentralized. The federal government doesn’t actually have much authority. This bill just tells the Victims of Communism Memorial Fund (snicker) to create materials and make them available.

Death to America.

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[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 69 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

i remember being in fifth grade (aka age 10ish) and having to go through state/federal mandated curriculum on drugs. i had to read about how babies were born addicted to crack and if you did crack even once, even accidentally, you would probably die instantly. and if you didn't die, you would do it again and again until you died because it took over your brain. and that all the dangerous things called "drugs" are like this: they make you addicted and ruin your mind until you do them so much you die.

each of the kids in class had to get up and read a paragraph they wrote about how sad it is that drugs kill you and pledge not to ever do them and tell the police if you see them. this well constructed scene from Ozark gave me hilarious flashbacks to the absurdity of such initiatives

i had never even heard of drugs, recreational or otherwise. but i sure as shit would hear about them constantly for the next decade and a half. every video game i played had a warning about drugs on it with the FBI logo and the name of the director (William Sessions, never forget).

as an early adult, upon smoking weed the first time, i realized the government was just plain lying and wondered why. thus began an unraveling of an onion that probably would have been left alone if they didn't spend years upon years and billions of dollars trying to make me and everyone else think a certain way.

[–] driving_crooner 50 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The worst thing is that later you get to know some intelligent cool people who use weed, and you tried by yourself and get like this mfs lie me about weed, were else they lie about? Maybe crack is not that bad actually.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago

It's by design. This is why drugs won the war on drugs

[–] someone@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

intelligent cool people who use weed

[–] Des@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

feels like shit just want him back see-you-space-cowboy

[–] someone@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Would you like to cry? I don't mean that in an insulting way, I actually mean that watching that video will probably make you cry. It makes me cry.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

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[–] Des@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

ok yeah a bit. PBS was seriously the only good television this cursed country ever produced.

Sagan, Mr. Rogers, Bob Ross, the big ass bird show. so glad my New Dealer grandfather so proudly shared that stuff with me

also i forgot Sagan had a kind of ASMR quality to him.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 63 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Now is a really good time to get people reading The Jakarta Method.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The follow up book is good too. Really emphasizes how decentralized, unorganized, spontaneous protests (or even riots) achieve nothing. Although the media presents it as if angry protests alone lead to positive change.

It's very clear that bad actors (capitalists and their governments basically) just want to fuck people over until they lose their minds, let them go out and knock over a sign or something, maybe punch a cop or two, then go home and the media jerks off for years about it. "Wow. Remember those protests? Wow. We all remember how things changed at that moment. Wow." While of course... nothing changes.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I gotta get around to checking that out. I'm drowning in my list though.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And the companion piece The Look of Silence. Though I've yet to watch them despite having them both on my Jellyfin. Just can't quite bring myself to do it. doomer

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I came into posession of a couple of Kris from my Indonesian husband's uncle who took great care of them as sacred artifacts or something. Prayed over them. Burned incense.

He sold me them when I was visiting. When I got home I asked my husband where his uncle got them from. The explanation was he was praying in church when the Imam told them to close their eyes and when they reopened them these artifacts appeared in their hands.

That's when I realized these were marital and family artifacts from the murdered. doomjak

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago
[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah they aren’t exactly feel good movies

[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I just got my dad a copy for Xmas

[–] ProgAimerGirl@hexbear.net 54 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

lol not just a propaganda bill, but literally JUST a propaganda bill. no stealthy chicanery or pseudocryptic naming convention, flat out JUST "gommunism bill"

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Communism Bill sounds like a wholesome superhero from a better timeline

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

Communism Bill is gonna be the first MAGA Communist president

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So Democrats screeching about Project 2025 is helping it along swimmingly when they still have power. Welcome to The Assistance. cheeto-man isn't even sworn in.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago

I mean us-ians still think ussr was on constant gray-filter littered with gulags, so i wouldn't be so dismissive.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024492

If I'm reading this right, Colorado is peak liberalism. Lauren Boebert the republican voted against it, the other republican didn't vote, and all of the democrats voted for it.

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You have to be truly dull to believe that it is possible to control 1.5 billion people

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"you see they are very simple people, not so smart like us"

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Asiatic hive mind, easy to control

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

Then those students can do literally 10 minutes of research

You realise we’re talking about Americans right

[–] BrezhnevsEyebrows@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago

Then those students can do literally 10 minutes of research to see that none of that is actually happening and that the people of China are pretty happy with the state of things (at least relative to US Americans).

Things that will not be happening

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This shit is literally what I learned in school and I turned out fine

[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] axont@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not convinced lessons in middle school are what shape an average American's political stances. At most it just teaches them specific vocabulary. No one remembers shit from school. The propaganda is everywhere at once and totalizing.

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your K-12 education absolutely plays a role in your political development. Not more than, say, your parents, but still absolutely narrows the frame of what you think about politics.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah you're right there about your parents. Whenever I want to know someone's politics without asking them directly I always ask "where does most of your money come from" and "what do your parents do for a living." I have a 95% success rate with this tactic.

I'm not convinced that Americans remember much from school at all though. Most Americans read at a sixth grade level and can't even identify all 50 states. The primary political ideology for the average American is "I don't give a shit, that's boring and gay."

Actually I'm with you if you also think that widespread disinterest and alienation is the deliberate shape of ideology being pushed by K-12. Millions of people were confused about Harris being on the ballot in November rather than Biden. And they're the ones who are more interested in the process since they show up to vote. That 50% of people who don't vote are little islands of idiosyncracy whose ideology boils down to various slogans they might half remember, or they'll state outright that they don't care.

Also don't get it twisted, I'm not a liberal who looks down on people who don't care about who the president is or reading theory. That's probably a lot saner of an outlook than I have. The disinterested person at least realizes American is a scam and it doesn't matter who gets elected.

I wanna ask since I'm curious too, what do you think the primary messages in K-12 are? Like, jingoism and xenophobia? That would be my guess about deliberate propaganda. Do you think it's something like that?

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The propaganda is everywhere at once and totalizing.

I believe this is the bigger factor in the effectiveness of capitalist propaganda. It's so pervasive that is becomes the whole of reality, and you can comfortably take it for granted for your entire life if you don't encounter the right people.

[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

lol Boebert voted against it.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

that's comrade boebert kril-at-sea

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fairly sure that all the No votes came from people who simply think that the federal education budget should be cut to 0.

[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

that makes sense

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, it is crucial to teach communism. xigma-male

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago

They are terrified.

Good.

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

under communism, the government would take away all your freedom and take away your job and enslave you and take away your home and blow up your house then kill all the homeless and make education illegal and indoctrinate you into marxism and take away your family and force you to have children and take away your music and your art and your history and censor all books and steal your money then you have to make art the state wants and then they raise inflation really really high and then they invade other countries and massacre innocent people and make food illegal then youd have to mine all your food yourself but the government would take it away and through you in jail and execute you without trial and then fire judges for not executing enough innocents for the quota then youd be sick and have to join the army only you cant go to work because you have to wait 10000 years for a car and it doesnt work so you walk to work but you cant walk because the government made it illegal you got no doctors since they were brainwashed before being executed you go to them but you have to pay in vodka only the govertnmentn made that illegal so you got no healthcare and its expensive and then you have to stay in a gulag with your family but theres no food left so you starve and you cant have any friends and they execute you and make happiness illegal and censor your opinion and make the internet illegal and they ban video games and then the earth would explode!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[–] Fatdork2@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

Demonrats and republican'ts are at it again