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[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a funny joke, but if you want to get into it we don't actually know if that's true or not it's an open question

[–] aaro@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

since this is the comment thread where we can get technical about it, we can kinda say π definitely doesn't have "all the answers" because that would mean it'd need to have stuff like 1/3 or √2, which we know it doesn't have

best we might be able to assert is that it has any sequence of integers of finite length, but that's covered by the "normal" comment here

[–] Posadas@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We know it's irrational since like 1800s, but we don't know if it's "normal." Compare 0.110100100010000... which can be demonstrated to be irrational but is clearly not normal - it only contains the digits 1 and 0 so all other digits aren't evenly distributed

[–] NoisyOwl@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay, I knew pi isn't normal, but I assumed there were some other numbers that were (like e or something).

But apparently all the known normal numbers are dumb bullshit people constructed just to demonstrate that there are normal numbers?

And yet most of the reals are normal??

And yet we still can't find any of them???

Math sure gets weird sometimes.

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most numbers are uncomputable too lol can't even tell you the first digit of 'em. There's functions that we can't represent at all like the irrational indicator function, no idea what it looks like and its not possible to know. Lots of functions like that in function space

[–] NoisyOwl@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

That one is less weird to me honestly. Not such a surprise that we can't find the numbers whose whole thing is not being findable.

[–] ped_xing@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, this state of affairs is called "finding hay in a haystack" and we're pretty bad at it.

[–] envis10n@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

"if it weren't for all of this damn hay I might actually be able to find the fucking hay!"

[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even in that case, the answer can be encoded in pi, such as in your example, which could be an encoding for the answer in binary. You just need to decypher it, then you'd have all the answers (that can be expressed as a finite string).

[–] Homestar440@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They say pie are squared, but they can’t fool me, pie are circle. I’ve seen it!

[–] Posadas@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Do not listen to this goverment plant! Pie are three dimensional!

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I can't help reading that in Homestar Runner's voice. sweat

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

i have discovered a truly marvelous proof that information is infinitely compressible, but the character limit of this comment is too small to...

...oh

never mind :(

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

We’re way past answers being numbers😔

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Rational numbers gang here, ready to fight.

[–] aaro@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

teacher won't let you bring your textbook in? easy, just write all the digits of π on your hand along with the digit index of where the answer to each question is and bam, free test.

[–] omenmis@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] envis10n@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you suggest indices starting at 1, I will be forced to ask you to leave.

[–] omenmis@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

unfortunately they start at 2 now

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago
[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

All the wrong answers too!