this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
69 points (100.0% liked)

chapotraphouse

13535 readers
925 users here now

Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.

No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer

Gossip posts go in c/gossip. Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from c/gossip

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A disaster for the whole planet as well..

[–] ayamohamed@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes, I agree with you. He is a crazy man and does not have any kind of wisdom. I did not expect him to win.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 week ago

Americans are crazy and have no wisdom

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Me neither. I was convinced this mad times are finally over with harris and that we could have convinced her to stop supporting genocide-Bibi.

Now we have this fucking dictator loving orange clown, again. FFS how can people vote for this motherfucker after those 4(or even 8) years of nightmares (Biden did not manage to undo all the horrible stuff trump has done)

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Biden did not manage to undo all the horrible stuff trump has done

He expanded upon them

load more comments (11 replies)
[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 50 points 1 week ago (23 children)

we could have convinced her to stop supporting genocide-Bibi.

That was never going to happen, she was adamant about her support for Israel even when it was obviously detrimental to her.

load more comments (23 replies)
[–] spectre@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We can't depend on Democrats to stop Trump, this is now incredibly well proven. We have 4 years to figure out something else.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I fear many won’t survive another 4 years 😞

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's fine, but it doesn't change anything. It's time to get offline and start fighting even if everyone is gonna die. Let me know if you don't know where to start.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

😄I start by making my own commune somewhere hidden in the Swiss Alps

[–] ayamohamed@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was also wondering how these people agreed to him in the elections. This world has become full of lunatics. Even Haaretz and Trump are two sides of the same coin. He will say continue the war and Haaretz will say stop the war while continuing the genocide.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is never the choice between good and bad, but Harris had more good than trump, which in my opinion has none good other than chaos which may lead collapse to new societies which may or may not be better..

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What exactly? Trump said mean things? What about Kamala is good/better?

Both wanted fracking/oil drilling Both didn't care about trans people (Kamala: we have to follow the law) Kamala actively put marginalized people from her community into jail on marijuana charges while Trump bankrupted a few casinos. Both want hostile relations with China.

If anything, Kamala/Joe ramped up two wars. Trump actually wants to end Ukraine. (we'll see)

So how exactly is either one worse? Orange man say bad thing?

Edit: You know what, I could give you "character". Sure. Creepy orange guy. Then again, the democrats ran Biden...so.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The difference for me is that Harris isn’t notoriously lying all the time (I mean completely senseless lies, often contradicting himself, like way out of logic)

But if you see no difference 🤷🏻 I don’t know..

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jul/31/kamala-harris-flip-flop-on-fracking-frames-fight-f/

https://nypost.com/2024/09/27/opinion/kamala-harris-intentional-lack-of-clarity-on-israel-raises-red-flags/

She did that too. 🤷🏻 I don’t know…

But I guess you're right. At the end of the day, the only real difference is that ones a angry mean cheeto and the other one really tells you the things you want to hear!

I've completely whooped your fucking ass on every defending point you have for her yet you choose to plug your ears and worship the democratic party..

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hu? Lol? I think you read my writing wrong.. How am I a democrat worshipper exactly by just trying ti write that you can vote for the lesser evil and still organise FFS

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You sat here and defended Harris the entire time we've been speaking...my bad I assumed? It's not the bad of an approximation but you know what, I do apologize for that if that isn't the case.

However, the lesser evil option is PSL. Greens haven't committed genocide or bombing campaigns either.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

Of course! I want green parties everywhere in the world, but in fucked up voting system, you sometimes have vote wrong to vote right, that is way you organise as well, trying to split the big parties up into many sub-parties.