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It's the dunk tank.
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Their favorite argument is "the war would end if Putler just gave up and pulled his troops out"
And it's just... Yeah sure, that would be fine I guess, but there's like a zero percent chance of that happening. So if you actually want this shit to end you have to come up with a realistic solution. It's almost as if the world doesn't work on thoughts and prayers.
This is also incredibly naive.
A strongly militarised contingent of ultranationalist groups has been in a state of war against Eastern Ukraine. They're more powerful than before, they have the backing of the state, and they've got a taste for blood.
If Putin pulled out tomorrow, the idea that they'd just demobilise and that they're wouldn't be any reprisal actions against the people in the Donbas region is just... unfathomably ignorant of recent history and the conditions in the Ukraine.
Imo there's zero chance that if Putin pulled out that we'd see an end to the war. It would simply morph back into a civil war situation again.
Oh yeah, I agree 100%
I was just dumbing it down to illustrate how completely lost in fantasy these people are.
They'd be totally fine with that though. The media wouldn't tell them to care about it, so they wouldn't, just like they didn't in the 8 years before the SMO started.
They only care if the designated "villain of the week" is doing a bad thing, otherwise it might as well not exist to libs.
And what's the probability of a state just giving up territory?
Pretty high.
They were negotiating a peacedeal that was so close Boris Johnson had to go immediately to Ukraine and stop Zelensky.
Now tell me: If large parts of a country is occupied, and those parts have voted for separation from said country, and the country is unable to continue fighting, what do you think will happen?