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I hope we all know this and are just doing it as a bit, but sometimes I do see shit on this website that makes me go “Oh y’all are genuinely just weird prudes”

The “gooner epidemic” is not real, gooning is an incredibly niche kink that very few people engage in.

“Porn addiction” is basically non existent and affects such a small portion of the population as to not be relevant. The idea that most people have in their heads about porn addiction is propaganda made up by evangelicals.

We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time. There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it.

Most of the time when people talk about “the gooner problem” what they’re actually talking about is a mix of two unrelated things, people living normal sexually liberated lives, and undersocialized young men that don’t know how to interact with people.

Sex is good. We should be having more of it. We should encourage healthy, safe sex featuring whatever kinks you and your partner(s) consent to. Don’t fall for puritan propaganda comrades.

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[–] regul@hexbear.net 26 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

Didn't Pompeii literally have dicks carved into the street to point the way to the nearest brothel? I think the classical world was incredibly sexually liberated and similarly exposed to sex a lot more than we are.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 30 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

large parts of the the classical world were slave societies, including pompeii. that level of sexual exploitation really strikes me as at odds with 'sexual liberation'

[–] Eiren@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 7 hours ago

Liberation is when human trafficking.

[–] OttoboyEmpire@hexbear.net 6 points 6 hours ago

i think there's probably a qualitative difference between vulgar graffiti and having a tiny machine in your pocket that has, and will be incentivized to create more, limitless simulations of people fucking for your gratification at any time.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 28 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I think we need Marx here. When you just have little depictions of nudity and sex as art pieces here and there it's a very different phenomenon compared to the commodification of sex. When we're talking about a commodity, it fundamentally transforms the relation we have with the object, it stops being just a thing that exists with a use value, to being a product that is brought to market and owned. It is produced in mass. Exploitation and alienation become parts of the operating process necessary for it to enter the market. So on and so forth.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 21 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Guy. You're comparing Internet porn to a society where there were prostitution currencies and brothels staffed by slaves

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 17 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, that's a very fair point so maybe you need to go back further in history for my comment to make full sense, since sex was already commodified in ancient Rome.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

not only that but the city had a prominent statue of Pan fucking a goat lol

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 9 points 8 hours ago

I wouldnt say liberated, but there was no filter. Graffiti of gay and lesbian (yes they were aware that it's possible) was found on the walls of public spaces. There is a story from ancient greek, where soldiers get another soldier's boyfriend to watch to give him courage in battle or something. There were mock law trials in rome, which place women and men on equal levels of being possible victims of SA.

[–] Boynomoder@hexbear.net 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

More so than medieval Europe I guess, but idk if the sheer amount and availability really compares. I dunno I’m not like a sex scholar by any means tho our current circumstances just feel a bit unique to me.

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

search "Jesus' side-wound", there is literally art where jesus is a transmasc icon giving birth to the church.

[–] RagingGingivitis@hexbear.net 14 points 7 hours ago

he got that stigmatussy tho

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