I hope we all know this and are just doing it as a bit, but sometimes I do see shit on this website that makes me go “Oh y’all are genuinely just weird prudes”
The “gooner epidemic” is not real, gooning is an incredibly niche kink that very few people engage in.
“Porn addiction” is basically non existent and affects such a small portion of the population as to not be relevant. The idea that most people have in their heads about porn addiction is propaganda made up by evangelicals.
We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time. There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it.
Most of the time when people talk about “the gooner problem” what they’re actually talking about is a mix of two unrelated things, people living normal sexually liberated lives, and undersocialized young men that don’t know how to interact with people.
Sex is good. We should be having more of it. We should encourage healthy, safe sex featuring whatever kinks you and your partner(s) consent to. Don’t fall for puritan propaganda comrades.
this thread reminds me of the time i saw people on here say that looking at porn at work is sexual assault
"looking at porn at work" implies looking at porn in a manner that other people who don't consent to seeing or hearing sexual acts can see or hear it without trying.
I think that has to be at least sexual harassment or misconduct or something, right?
Yeah like definitely gross and on the harassment spectrum but it was being characterized as R word sexual assault, which is what I object to, but even that objection gets harsh condemnation (ironic in a thread accusing hexbear of weirdo puritanism)
i don't get why people want to be like, gross thing is just as bad as the worst thing, you're a chud if you disagree!! but it's a response I saw last time too so i guess i shouldn't have brought it up
I'm one of the least marginalized people on earth so i honestly just choose to listen and inquire to better my understanding when it comes to these topics. Nobody gives a single shit what i have to say about sexual assault and they shouldn't
Personally I was reading it as “watching porn at work and keeping it on the down low and maybe getting caught” and not “projecting porn on the big screen in the middle of the office”
One of those is a bit weird and awkward. One is fucked up. They are very much not the same.
This is why i wanted to clarify because i think the people arguing that it's assault are thinking of something closer to projector than bathroom stall
What a creepy and weird thing to do at work
sure but it's not "assault" and imo characterizing it that way kinda detracts from actual assault in a way that makes me uncomfortable
Uh it is. The fuck is wrong with you.
Assault ≠ harassment
what is wrong with you to equate someone looking at nudes or whatever with an actual assault? like i literally don't even want to describe "actual assault" in greater detail because that in and of itself feels gross
Like you're over there going, whatever, chud, reactionary, at me, like Im being gross for saying "these things are not equivalent" but I think what you are doing is way, waaaay, waaaaaay more gross, especially when saying "looking at porn at work isn't sexual assault" isn't the defense of looking at porn at work you seem to think it is
You: this person is gross, they don't think looking at porn at work is a big deal
Me: this person is gross, they think looking at porn at work is equivalent to one of the most deeply violating acts a person can experience
But woops im not a mod so im wrong i guess
you do understand there are different types & degrees of sexual assault / sexual harassment, right
yes but okay, I can't use the specific word, because it is word filtered, and trying to describe the act without the more specific word feels gross, but that is literally my point. It is not the equivalent of r word sexual assault which was literally the opinion I was seeing
Yeah but it is definitely more than just "sexual harassment" so I don't know how else to quantify it. Like literally exposing your coworkers to pornographic content is way more than just harassment I don't know what to call it but we literally had some weirdo on here defending against people calling it harassment not assault so it seemed like you were defending that individual by bringing up what I can only assume is a reference to that guy. If anything you started with a strawman and I didn't bother to correct you but now I am and I think your response to me is also indignant and suspect.
I assume they mean, like, in secret?
the person in the incident I can only assume they must be describing was most certainly not meaning in secret. They were banned over this.
didn't realize that by discussing this in the abstract we were relitigating a specific incident but okay.
There is literally only one time that topic has ever come up so how could I think it was anything but a reference to that specific event.
"Looking at porn in private" or "looking at porn secretly taking precautions to not be caught" is going to be perceived different than "looking at porn at work" by most people
Yeah, no. The only incident they could possibly be referring to was one user that explicitly tried to defend "looking at porn at work where others can see it" when called out on it being harassment and not assault.
I guess to me the secret part was implied because it seems like conduct which would result in instant firing or close to it if discovered. Depends on the workplace I suppose.
Always good to clarify because I'm often clueless about implications in text.
if i hear "looking at porn at work" i'm assuming that's like in a toilet stall on your phone, or in an office you can lock and have some privacy.
Guess I'm built different but i think it's reasonable to assume some people interpreted it in the least charitable way when claiming it's akin to assault. Whether you agree with the characterisation or not
It really really isn’t??? And the fact that you’re claiming it is is actually very concerning to me and definitely detracts from actual sexual assault like WizardofLoneliness said
Okay but the user and event I assumed they are talking about that actually did happen was people rightfully calling out a guy that admitted to looking at porn at work as doing sexual harassment not assault and so it came off as bad faith defense of that individual hence my knee-jerk response.
Ah yes I was not aware of the details of the specific incident, I was just thinking of the countless cases I’ve heard of people getting in trouble for watching porn at work where it’s just weird. If the specific incident was fucked your reaction totally makes sense
was it you? were you the account that posted about jacking it to porn at work
boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that's why I goon on company time
no b/c i don't jack it to porn at work dawg