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I hope we all know this and are just doing it as a bit, but sometimes I do see shit on this website that makes me go “Oh y’all are genuinely just weird prudes”

The “gooner epidemic” is not real, gooning is an incredibly niche kink that very few people engage in.

“Porn addiction” is basically non existent and affects such a small portion of the population as to not be relevant. The idea that most people have in their heads about porn addiction is propaganda made up by evangelicals.

We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time. There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it.

Most of the time when people talk about “the gooner problem” what they’re actually talking about is a mix of two unrelated things, people living normal sexually liberated lives, and undersocialized young men that don’t know how to interact with people.

Sex is good. We should be having more of it. We should encourage healthy, safe sex featuring whatever kinks you and your partner(s) consent to. Don’t fall for puritan propaganda comrades.

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[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 15 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

Bro over half the men I’ve dated have erectile dysfunction in their twenties and can’t cum from anything but their own hand because they’ve nuked their pleasure centers from porn addiction. They all want to choke and have rough sex immediately and can’t get off to anything else. You can believe whatever the “experts” say but I will believe my own lying eyes

Every person who dates men I’ve spoken to has a similar experience. You might as well tell me “experts say Depression isn’t widespread”. Yeah ok dude I know what I see

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Funny you should mention depression, because being unable to get off with another partner or not being able to get it up IS caused by depression, and especially anxiety.

Furthermore, if they're in their 20s, they're very likely not sexually experienced, so yeah, being naked with someone else is likely a pretty new thing, which can be anxiety-inducing.

And pretty much everyone now has at least some issue with anxiety because... gestures broadly at the world

(Choking and rough sex, though? Likely more complicated than that.)

and can’t cum from anything but their own hand because they’ve nuked their pleasure centers from porn addiction.

I had this issue till I was 23 and I didn't have much access to porn at all till I was 18. I was fully able to jerk off too much just from my own imagination. The problem was probably more due to the fact I was a pillow humper than a hand guy. Once I switched the the more traditional method I could cum with partners just fine, and this was without any major change in my porn consumption habits.

[–] xj9@hexbear.net 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I had a friend with problems like that, but he seemed a lot happier after moving to Brazil from the US. This was in Utah though and to me a lot of those folks look like clones. Might be a different issue in that case.

Personally do I think excessive porn consumption can cause developmental issues, but that's not the same as addiction.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 15 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Utah has the highest porn consumption per capita rate in the US

Overconsumption of something unhealthy that you cannot stop doing is the definition of addiction

[–] xj9@hexbear.net 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of people also just have an unhealthy relationship with sex which makes their relationship with porn also unhealthy. Navigating sex and relationships is tough. Just doing that badly enough is enough to fuck a person up. That said, if the lens of addiction helps people manage their relationship with porn better that's great!

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That said, if the lens of addiction helps people manage their relationship with porn better that's great!

There’s the rub though, on a wide scale it very much doesn’t, thinking of it through the lens of addiction makes the problem significantly worse, and intensifies the feelings of shame and anxiety.

[–] xj9@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago

I agree, that's a huge if.

I don't personally subscribe to the porn addiction narrative. There's a lot of unhealthy socialization around sex that is not addresses in that framework at all, which I find pretty sus.