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Russians are employing this dastardly new technology called "mines" which no army on earth has encountered before, least of all those of the NATO members like France, Germany and the UK.
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Oh you're doing some weird thing where you amass all your force in one point in order to cause a breakthrough, which you then push as far as you can? We make deep battle lines and disrupt your logistical capabilities.
Oh you've got super fancy tanks? Have you heard of landmines?
Create a whole naval doctrine centered around carrier's and their defence? Hypersonic cruise missile that blows it up in one hit, rendering almost 80 years of NATO doctrine fucking useless. Hell, even the DPRK has it but somehow america doesn't.
Super complicated top of the line tank hailed the world over (leopards), gets owned by dudes with soviet t72s and t90s
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Tigers in WWII got owned by the T-34.
People talk a lot about its design, but first off: transmission broke. Secondly the German cats might've been designed well (I disagree on a lot of forms) but if they can't be produced, and they can't be utilised effectively in the war that they are created for, then their design isn't actually good. Design isn't just a questionbof "who can think up the coolest thing?" It's also - and much more so - a question of "what is realistically possible?"
Saying Soviet design was "worse" because it was simpler or not as fancy is silly. Soviet design was better, because while it might not have as many fancy doodads, it was actually able to be produced, used, maintained and repaired. What good is your tank if it never even shows up on the battlefield?
It's the same with the F16s Ukraine is allegedly receiving. This supposed wonderjet can't handle dirt on the landing field, it can't deal that well with rain, and it requires very specialised crew. I dunno if it's stats are better or whatever, but it doesn't matter if it can't even take off.
And this attitude is so typical for the west!
"Our leopards will crush the enemy"
they might've, if they didn't run headfirst into landmines before anything else happened.
Our bastions in Afghanistan are filled with high-tech, they will crush any engagement with the Taleban ".
they might, if they weren't perpetually undermanned by people too tired to stand because a child with a rifle kept the base on high alert all night.
Our chinooks are able to transport troops anywhere.
They might be, if you had any troops to transport.
People also tend to forget that the T-34 was operational in 1941 but the Tiger didn't appear on the battlefield until about a year and a half later.
There are plenty of Nazi war diaries of German troops pissing and shitting themselves when they found that their anti-tank weapons couldn't hurt T-34s or KVs in 1941.
although not to be a downer, this is mitigated by the fact that t34s were very rare at that point (as the soviets were smack dab in the middle of rearmament). They mostly encountered the weaker BT-7's and T-36 and T38. It took until a year or two until they were really fucked. The Soviets were the only side that truly knew how to win that war, their main tank could go at very high speeds while 1v1ing the tiger tank. Germans were fucked by 43.
also they made about 50,000 t-34s and just over 1000 tigers
I forgot we had
around lol
🤓 the vmf didnt operate hypersonic missiles
Also a guy in a ditch with a timed satchel explosive, iirc that was a great number of tank deaths in ww2, they would attach it in the perfect spot under a tank and have guys camp out in a hidden trench for days