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It sucks because I actually like having cool villains in my fiction. It can make for visually interesting and exciting conflicts, or make the evil instantly recognizable. Ngl I really like the look of the empire in star wars, but I hate that it’s only damn filthy tankies (and those neo marxists taking over universities ofc) who seem to be interested in critically analyzing media and can separate interesting fictional aesthetic from, yknow, actually supporting fascist ideas.
The libs/chuds (
) can’t be trusted to not slobber on even fictional boots
You can absolutely have a ferocious, scary fash villain. Fascists don't need to literally be Mr. Bean to be a clown. Have them obsessed with something that would otherwise be benign. Have them feel some lack from a failed purity test (i.e. being It*lian and feeling like you're not white) rot their soul from the inside and torture them. Maybe a powerful mage in an all black military uniform who's self-conscious about going bald. A skinhead with a legendary weapon who shaves their teeth until they're all sharp and gets an infection of the mouth. A powerful tycoon whose project is a natural order that is obviously based on fictitious pretenses who has fooled an entire army who refuse to get out of Plato's cave. An elusive, beloved bard who conditions victims to believe that society is full of drones and his victims can do nothing but repeat what the bard has said uncritically. You can give a villain a fatal flaw allegorical to being fash that both makes them look like a clown and doesn't preclude them from being aesthetic.
I mean, the reason people insert themselves in villans is because of the power fantasy, and making someone flawed and powerful (without making them comic relif) will still lead to chud projection. I guess just mock chud supporters in your art?
Frollo in Hunchback is a fine example of ferocious, scary, and repulsive. Very few chuds want to be him.
The newest Wolfensteins did a good job making them look like clowns. Especially the second one, good stuff.
I've seen impotence used pretty effectively in sinister fash villains
Nah, in real life the villans are ridiculous and lame.
Cool villains are a fantasy about the world being more just. What if the suffering you experience isn't from some dentists kid who inherent your house but some cool evil guy. Then your struggle would be noble.
That’s true, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having a bit of unrealistic fiction here and there, as long as you can separate the exaggerated & escapist nature of that fiction from reality. For a not insignificant number of people their view of “evil” is based entirely on fiction (eg that “trump is voldemort” shit).
Personally I enjoy exploding space nazis wearing cool looking power armor in ridiculous fictional battles, while also acknowledging that 99% of the time the perpetrators of cruelty are the most milquetoast, spineless, banal, and evil pieces of shit in existence - who also happen to deserve the
all the same.
Sometimes it’s nice to have that escapist fantasy of incinerating nazi cyborgs, as long as it doesn’t prevent you from doing good in real life of course.